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What would this incident do to law abiding citizens who has PTCFORs?

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by PMMA97, Nov 3, 2009.

  1. PMMA97

    PMMA97 TagaBundok

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    Motorist nearly hits TV host’s car, then waves gun

    By Julie M. Aurelio
    Philippine Daily Inquirer
    First Posted 14:47:00 11/03/2009

    Filed Under: Accidents (general), Media, Police

    MANILA, Philippines – An ABS-CBN newscaster has alleged that a hot-headed driver nearly sideswiped her car along Visayas Ave. in Quezon City and even pointed a gun at her while ordering her to get out.

    In a report with the Quezon City Police District’s Criminal Investigation and Detection Unit, anchor Cheryl Cosim said the driver of a black car allegedly pointed his gun at her and her companions.

    Police Officer 2 Loreto Tigno, case investigator, said the male driver, estimated to be around 40 to 45 years old, was driving a black Nissan Cefiro with plate number XPY 497 at around 4:30 p.m. Monday.

    “We’re looking at a traffic altercation here because the driver almost sideswiped Cosim’s vehicle while they were both cruising along Congressional Ave,” he said in an interview on Tuesday.

    Cosim, 35 and a resident of 10 Windgate Villas along Visayas Ave, was about to go home when the traffic altercation happened.

    Initial investigation showed that Cosim, together with John and Manuel Alvarez and Christian Bugayong were aboard their white Mitsubishi Outlander with plate number NZN 484 along Congressional Ave when they came across the male driver.

    Cosim’s vehicle was then being driven by a certain Joselito Alvarez.

    The news anchor told police that the black sedan nearly sideswiped their car, and upon reaching the corner of Congressional and Visayas Ave, the man suddenly blocked their path.

    The driver allegedly alighted from his car and pointed his handgun at the vehicle’s terrified passengers as he beckoned Cosim et al to get out of their vehicle.

    “They [Cosim et al] were reportedly unable to hear what the man was saying, only that his gun was pointed at them and that he was apparently telling them to get off,” Tigno said.

    The driver, who was wearing a white shirt and black pants, later boarded his car and sped off, leaving the news anchor to report the incident to the QCPD CIDU.

    Chief Inspector Benjamin Elenzano Jr, homicide section head, said his men traced the black Nissan Cefiro to a male owner living in Project 6 in Quezon City, based on records from the Land Transportation Office.

    But he said they would pay the owner a visit to determine if he was indeed the gun-toting driver involved in the traffic altercation on Monday afternoon.

    “We will also check if the owner has a licensed gun. If Cosim’s description matches, we will recommend that the man’s firearms license and permit to carry be revoked,” Elenzano said.

    Police are preparing a possible complaint of grave threats against the driver of the black Nissan Cefiro with whom Cosim had an encounter.

    Elenzano added that should they discover that the gun was unlicensed, they would also file another complaint of illegal possession of firearms against the driver.
     
  2. choi_tan2000

    choi_tan2000 BoG # 55555

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    for sure bro magegeneralize nanaman ang mga may ptc and damay pati resposible gun owners like us.

    even if people know that this one is not a esposible owner of FA. why?
    7 of his 7 guns are expired, definitely he has no PTC FOR but he stil carry a gun. so hes not one of us. pero some people will still look after every gun owners and ptc for holders.
     


  3. darth board

    darth board steel killer

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    knee jerk reaction na naman yan pag nagkataon, siyempre titirahin na naman sa mga radio and tv ang gun ownership lalo na yung pag issue ng ptc.
     
  4. choi_tan2000

    choi_tan2000 BoG # 55555

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    tama ka dyan bro kanina bumibira na si karen davila, buti andun si partner nya mdyo ok nmn discussion. but for sure sasamantalahin nnman ito ng mga anti gun na parang di nkikita gaanu kagulo bansa natin thats why most pinoys wanted or apply for ptc for
     
  5. The jerk had no PTC and his license for all seven of his FA's were expired.
     
  6. 9MX

    9MX Rei!

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    tamis anghang..sinilverswan!:supergrin:
     
  7. ppts799

    ppts799 Daisho

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    ang tapang naman to write down even their plate numbers AND home address ...
     
  8. edtf

    edtf

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    YUP I noticed that too - both parties pa :wow:
     
  9. vega

    vega

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    Am I missing something??? Or some threads were removed?
     
  10. 9MX

    9MX Rei!

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    nope, you're not missing anything.

    i heard about this incident at dzmm pasade 630, karen davila was already generalizing PTCFOR holders:

    bakit daw natin kailangan, eh may pulis naman daw (meron nga, kulang naman sa bilang)
    ang mga may dala ng baril, mas madalas sa pang-aabuso nauuwi (kinontra siya ni vic lima dito)
    kailan daw nagkaroon ng incident na naidefend ng ptcfor ang sarili niya against holduppers (haller, madami na kayang ganito, ayaw ni pareng sonny parsons ng ganyan, baka gusto niyang makantahan ng "Katawan")

    i guess the perception of reality varies from person to person:dunno:
     
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2009
  11. Cody Jarrett

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    Someone should tell the Brady campaign that the Philipines isn't too different from how our LEO would handle such an event. They're always toting stats about other countries lack of handguns.
     
  12. g17green

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    hi fellow bog's let me share my experience neto lang last Nov1 sa cemetery.
    streets inside the cemetery has one side parking ang medyo masikip ang daan dahil makipot lang ang daanan. so syempre dahan dahan ka lang. sa kalagitnaan ng daan palabas ng cemeteryo a guy with a motorcycle parked on the other side of the street. Ika nga eh sya lang ang naka double park at no one can possibly pass kasi nakaharang siya. Napakamalas ko naman at ako pa tong naunang dumaan sa street exit na to. as i was waving him the sign na daraan ako, he signalled the sign impossible. like waving his hand na parang if you would interpret it eh "wala" so to make things short bumaba ako and ask him "kanino ba tong motor" sinagot ako ng "kanya daw!" so i asked him kung pwede paki tabi at daanan eto. He said "anung gusto mong gawin ko paliparin eto!".
    If KAREN DAVILA would say na may mga pulis naman criticizing mga PTCFOR eh para atang mali dahil FULL FORCE ang PNP sa lugar namin pero nagipon ipon sa entrance (cguro nagtratrafic), sa meryendahan at mga magkakasamang nagkwekwentuhan. But never napwestuhan ang only ONE way na exit. If any person in my situatution siguro talgang mag iinit ang ulo.!!!
    I have my PTCFOR but never made any effort para gulatin, or manakot kahit pa ganung klase ng tao ang makaharap mo. And eto pa masama ako pa tong nag suggest sa kanya para buhatin ang motor nya AND AKO PA ANG TUMULONG MAGBUHAT matapos lang ang INIS mo para maisampa sa gutter kasi he told me na hindi pwede isampa ung motor nya kasi LOWERED daw!!!! And pinaka simpleng pwede nya gawin is push his motorcyle and park it on the side kung san may mga sasakyan nakapark.
    Evry person has it's own perception pagdating sa init ng ulo at pagbunot at pagwave ng baril kung napaaway or not. Pero wag naman lahatin ang may mga PTCFOR dahil lang sa incident na nangyari sa kapwa katrabaho at dahil lang sa media sila.......
    If KAren Davila were on my situation what will she do with this kind of people na nakamotor na iresponsable at kala nya kanya ang kalsada??? bubuhatin din ba nya ang motor?????? hhhhmmmmmmm
     
  13. Vault Keeper

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    The problem with them (media people, but not all) they have the venue to air out their grievances. And sometimes, to the extent of abusing them too...kung nakamamatay ang mga reports and komentaryo ekek nila...eh marami na sigurong nakalibing ngayon sa Loyola. :wow:

    Just my opinion...though what Mr. Cefiro driver did was not at all commendable, and outright stupid!
     
  14. Wp.22

    Wp.22

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    Prinsesa pa naman ng ABS and natutukan baka sa lingo matatackle pa yan ni kabayan sa radio show nila ni ms. cosim. BTW a few years back i saw ms. cosim sa megamall with mr. wowowee di naman maganda.
     
  15. Black_SIR

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    paano nila nalamanna .45 ang tinutok?? ang talas ata ng mata nila??

    heheheheh lucky for that guy hinid armado tinutokan niya or on the spot cya.. :wow:
     
  16. bikethief

    bikethief itchy trigger

    For sale: 99 Nissan Cefiro (RUSH)

    Black
    Owner driven
    No accident
    No baha
    Original paint, latang-lata
    Registered up to 2010
    Free 1911 (I will shoulder transfer and renewal)
     
  17. G19cPH

    G19cPH

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    Grave threat and illegal possesion ang isasampa na kaso gusto pa humingi ng hold departure order.
     
  18. toxic

    toxic

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    :rofl::rofl:
     
  19. toxic

    toxic

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    but seriously , baka naman naunang nagpakita ng provicaton ang kampo ni Cosim , nagulat sila kase may baril pala yung other party, obviously taga media na paikot na storya..in any case di talaga tama yung mag tutukan ng baril ..nag katutukan nga ba?..makita at mag pa interview din sana yung may ari ng Cefiro.