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What were ammo options in the 80s?

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by chewybaca67, Jul 13, 2010.

  1. chewybaca67


    Apr 26, 2006
    New Mexico
    Back in the day, the 80s, I was to young to own a hand gun and my shootin' experience was limited to .22 cal rifles, shot guns, and on occasion an AR-15 from crazy Vietnam Vet Uncle on the Rez.

    Clearly, ammo tech. has sky rocketed and there are options galore out there, producing many ammo/caliber wars and such. But what ammo options were out there back in the day. Teach us some humility Ol Timey Experienced gurus. We seek an education in this matter.
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2010
  2. awoodpd13


    Aug 14, 2009
    Here are the Factory handgun loads I used most in the 1980's:

    45ACP: Win. 185gr. STHP
    9x19: Win. 115gr. STHP or Fed. 124gr. HydraShok
    38SPL.: Win. 158gr. LSWCHP
    .357Mag.: Win. 145gr. STHP (STILL my SD choice for this caliber!)

  3. CanyonMan

    CanyonMan In The Saddle

    Jul 26, 2002
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  4. orangevol


    Mar 6, 2009
    Southwest, TN
    The most popular hollow point I used was Win Silver-tip.
  5. DonGlock26


    Jan 18, 2001
    I carried 115gr 9mm Silvertips in my Gen 1 G-17 on duty at the close of the 1980's. Then we went to 147gr. 9mm Hydra-shoks in an issued P228 DAO. We later switched to 147gr 9mm Golddots (great round). We replaced the P228's with P220R's. We used RangerT 230 gr and now 230gr. HST +P.:cool:
  6. chewybaca67


    Apr 26, 2006
    New Mexico
    THem kind of stories is what I like about Gun Forums.

    I have 5 rounds left of 158 grain Fed. Nyclads in 357 Mag. Hell, even when I bought them in the early 90s, they been sittin' on the shelf for quite awhile.
  7. the four that come to my mind was a 210grn. remington .44 mag round, outstanding on deer, discontinued. second was the winchester silvertip for everything. third was a speer 200grn. 45 hollowpoint [the flying ashtray] for my combat commander which was 100% reliable with them.
    there was also the first hydra shock. it looked like a hollow base wadcutter turned around with a post in the center. i think it was pure lead because it would lead up a revolver so bad it would jam.
  8. CanyonMan

    CanyonMan In The Saddle

    Jul 26, 2002

    I try ! I hear ya ! ;)

    Bless ya amigo !

  9. Ak.Hiker


    Feb 8, 2005
    Homer Alaska
    I still had some 190 grain Super Vel JHP for my 45 acp as well as the 200 grain Speer flying ashtray. For my 44 magnum carbine it was the 240 grain JSP Norma Special Carbine load and the 180 grain Super Vel JHP. I also at times carried the Remington 240 grain JSP in the 44 Magnum. In the 357 Magnum it was the Remington 158 grain lead SWC. I saved the best for last because I still like it. 230 grain FMJ ball for ther 45 acp.
  10. Merkavaboy

    Merkavaboy Code-7A KUZ769

    In the earily 80's the old Super Vel could still be had.

    Win Silvertips were popular in the available calibers. Then there was always the Fed Hydra-Shoks.

    Revolver fans always had the 357Mag and the 125JHPs were the King if you could manage the recoil and stayed away from the fireball coming from the muzzle.

    The Speer 200JHP "flying ashtrays" (coined by Dean Grennell IIRC) was popular in 45ACP.

    And the fast 115JHP+P+ 9mm by Fed and Win were dropping BG's exceedingly well when used by the Illinois State PD and U.S. Border Patrol.

    The 38Spl 158SWCHP+P was and still is a good SD load, and the light weight 110JHP+P+ was a popular LE round (often known as the Secret Service and Calif Highway Patrol round), but the USBP found it to be an erratic performer.

    The 80's was also great for all those new Wiz-Bang exotic loads like Rhino, ThunderZap, Exploders (Velex/Velet), Omnishock, Triplex, Multiplex, copper HPs by Personal Protection Systems etc, etc. (They never were effective and always expensive, but great for cartridge collectors and ammo buffs like myself).
  11. Back then the Win Silver Tip was considered the best. I carried them in my .44mag and Fed SJHP's in my .357mag. Then I found the wonderful world of reloading.
  12. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster Millennium Member

    Sep 24, 1999
    Hartford, Vermont
    Back in the 80's you had the big three only - Winchester, R-P, and Federal.
  13. oddjob


    Jun 22, 2005
    Glaser Safety round....I know someone who actually shot a suspect with one. Worked as advertised.
  14. M 7

    M 7

    May 22, 2012
    Bump it up? More like resurrecting the long departed. Thread's like five years old. :dunno:
  15. chewybaca67


    Apr 26, 2006
    New Mexico
    You responded didn't you? Bumping up old threads is for newer members of GT.
  16. Bren

    Bren NRA Life Member

    Jan 16, 2005
    Ammo tech has not skyrocketed. It is different now, but not better. If you shoot 10mm, it is considerably worse.

    In the 80's, I carried a .357 magnum with Remington 125 gr. semi-jacketed hollow points. There isn't much you can carry in a semi-auto that will equal that.

    Then I carred a 9mm with Federal Hydra-Shok +P+. I'm not even sure they still make it.

    Then I carried Remington 10mm 165 gr. JHP in the 80's/90's full power version.

    Anybody who thinks "ammo tech. has sky rocketed" since the 80's, wasn't shooting in the 80's.
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2015
  17. chewybaca67


    Apr 26, 2006
    New Mexico
    I wasn't shooting in the 80s. Well, just .22 rf.
  18. JMag


    Feb 7, 2001
    USA:Love it or leave!
    Speer's "Flying Ashtray" .45 ACP was happening in late 80s, IIRC.It worked well. Norma's hot 10mm was around, too.

    Sent from my iPad using Ohub Campfire
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2015
  19. Wow, this is old, but the 357mag HPs from the late 60s are just as effective today. I carried Remington 158gr SJHPs for duty, now I handload them along with Winchester/Nosler versions and the 140gr Rem SJHP.

    The introduction of the Remington 158gr SJHPs in the early 70s, 125s didn't hit the market til later in the 70s, were more of a fancy gas check bullet to reduce bore leading. The Lyman manual I used for handloading, 1970, also had load data for the Speer 146gr/160gr half jacket bullets in addition to the Rem 158gr JSP. Six cast bullet weight ranged from 121grs to 190grs, cool enough, it was a M27/5" that was used for testing.

    Surprisingly enough, Herco powder put up the fastest numbers for the cast bullets, but there wasn't any Herco data for the jacketed bullets. 2400 powder put up respectable numbers across the board.

    In later years Lyman established 2400/17.7grs as the factory equivalent load for 125gr JHPs. Several years ago on a bright Arizona February day, I tested Lyman's data thru a M686P 4". As bright as the day was, a large fireball could be seen from behind along with radial pressure waves.

    The 357mag is still a premier force to be reckoned with after all these decades. :)