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What type of S will HTF?

Discussion in 'Survival/Preparedness Forum' started by CESwartz07, Mar 23, 2012.

  1. CESwartz07

    CESwartz07 Sheep Dog

    Jul 10, 2010
    Just curious as to what SHTF senario you believe to be most plausible/the main reason you prepare. My prep compared to many is very minimal but the S that I am most concerned will HTF is Natural Disaters (katrina), and large scale social unrest (oakland riots, recent political riots overseas).
  2. kirgi08

    kirgi08 Watcher. Silver Member

    Jun 4, 2007
    Acme proving grounds.



    Sep 30, 2010
    PHX AZ
    Hordes of "zombies" when the government checks stop coming.
  4. President losing re-election.
    President winning re-election.
  5. Syclone538


    Jan 8, 2006
  6. TangoFoxtrot

    TangoFoxtrot OIF 04-05

    Sep 10, 2008
    Nowhereville, USA
    * Social and economic unrest.
    * Oil shortages and excelerated prices.
    * Natural or stellar event.
  7. NDCent

    NDCent Socially Inept

    Mar 19, 2010
    I live near the New Madrid fault and tornado alley, followed by social/economic reasons.

    In the last few years our county had a severe ice storm that took out power for days/weeks depending on your location, and (2) 100 year floods. In the past 20 years we've had (3) 100 year floods... I believe they need to redo some stats.
  8. series1811

    series1811 Enforcerator. CLM

    See Katrina and New Orleans, and what happened when social services stop for a few days, and then imagine them stopping for a few weeks.
  9. jason10mm

    jason10mm NRA-GOA-TSRA

    Jan 27, 2001
    Clarksville, TN
    I agree, a widescale natural disaster seems to be the most likely (as in, it happens ALL THE TIME). Lots of folks just don't realize how dependent they are on trucking and open roads. A severe ice storm, a hurricane punch, or an earthquake and they could be effectively cut off for days/weeks. Will folks starve, maybe not. But if you have the capability of riding it out in your house or hotel instead of being in a gov't shelter, why would you NOT plan accordingly?

    I'm not that concerned about nuclear strikes or meteors from space. Rioting/social collapse is a concern but I'm not sure that stuff would spread very far from the denser urban areas. An increase in general chaos (more nighttime burglaries, assaults, etc) is a concern, and probably the one area all this firearms training will show a tangible benefit.

    But then, I work for the gov't, so I have a reasonable expectation of having to report for duty and be supplied with some level of rations for me and my family(maybe). I don't really have the "turtle up" mindset.
  10. all of the various scenarios whether its natural disasters or man made all will basically result in social unrest/economic collapse in my opinion.
  11. cowboy1964


    Sep 4, 2009
    Economic collapse and pandemic are the most probable.

    The really scary ones are EMPs, nukes, and extraterrestrial events (asteroids, comets, gamma ray burst) but they are much less likely.
  12. cowboy1964


    Sep 4, 2009
    Not to mention that if you traveled literally just a few dozen miles in any direction you were out of the zone and everything was normal.
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  13. quake

    quake Millennium Member

    Aug 4, 1999
    Arkansas, USA
    Most common in my area is weather problems (tornadoes & ice storms mostly), but short of a direct hit from a tornado, any weather-induced 'shtf' hit is fairly easy to deal with; so it's not the most worrisome to me.

    Most worrisome to me personally is economic problems a la Argentina, Greece, etc.
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  14. emt1581

    emt1581 Curious Member

    Oct 17, 2002
    Penn's Woods
    I agree with those who say financial disasters. And I've got quite a lengthy thread showing the concerns people have for what will happen to society if the checks stop.

    Isn't it interesting how low the concern is about terrorism compared to the economy?? This could be for a few reasons but I'm thinking a big one is because of how long we have gone without an attack here on US soil combined with the plethora of stopped attacked smeared all over the media. Time to listen to some Darryl Worley folks. Have You Forgotten?

  15. matt_lowry123


    Nov 23, 2008
    owensboro KY
  16. mac66

    mac66 Huge Member Millennium Member

    Oct 28, 1999
    Blue Planet
    Couple things that concerns me.

    First is the escalation of the "have vs. have not" rhetoric. I think this country is really being divided by the political "progressive' rhetoric by the left, including our president and by reactionary rhetoric by the far right. It is scary to see the toehold hard core socialism has taken since Obama has been in power. Active protests against wall street and business; More and more talk about limiting freedom of speech. Celebrities coming out of the closet proclaiming themselves socialists; the media openly embracing socialism and censoring the right. It is getting scary. I think in another 4 years, if Obama is re-elected it will be tough to turn back the tide. This of course means some type of cultural confrontation is brewing.

    The other thing is a "black swan" event. A "black swan" is something completely out of the blue that we can't conceptualize until it happens. It could be a nuke attack but from a direction we don't expect. Might be a terrorist attack or natural disaster we haven't thought of. It might be something like an attempted coup-De-tat in the US. What ever it is, we won't be expecting it and it will be devastating.
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  17. quake

    quake Millennium Member

    Aug 4, 1999
    Arkansas, USA
    A thing that scares me is an Obama in the white house that doesn't have to care about re-election. Right now, he's at least making somewhat of an effort to hide his real beliefs & agenda.

    Imagine if he had a free rein ("reign" may be more correct), being in a position of no longer having to worry about an upcoming election cycle.
  18. Bolster

    Bolster Not Ready Yet!

    Jul 23, 2011
    State of Stupidity
    Here in So Cal, earthquake is the traditional worry.

    But water is also a persistent worry...most all of ours is shipped in from No Calif. If electricity goes out, many of the pumping stations will go, too.

    And in Los A, we're also concerned about a terror strike, either on LAX, or at the Los Angeles harbor.

    Of course, we also have a grand tradition of racial riots breaking out along the 110 freeway. (See post #4 above.)

    So there's plenty to worry about, and prep for. With everything on our plate, it's nice we don't have to worry about weather much.

    And then there's this, which bears repeating:

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  19. glock_collector


    Dec 23, 2011
    I have alot of kittens saves in my freezer to help the big feets survive along with my family. Chicken rice a roni anyone?