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What trigger do I have in my Glock?

Discussion in 'Valuable Info' started by Butch, Dec 28, 2009.

  1. Burleigh

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    Very interesting thread. Thanks to all who posted here.
     
  2. j19

    j19 I am a ******.

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    My mind reportedly has room for lots of new information. I beg to differ. I am a newbie shooter and Glock owner. Retired from the medical side of the Navy and even spent time with the marines. My M16 and 1911 were required field gear way back when but most of the time was spent making Marines well, not shooting. Now retired I learn more and more every day about my Glock. Great thread here for newbies with time.
     

  3. j19

    j19 I am a ******.

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    My mind reportedly has room for lots of new information. I beg to differ. I am a newbie shooter and Glock owner. Retired from the medical side of the Navy and even spent time with the marines. My M16 and 1911 were required field gear way back when but most of the time was spent making Marines well, not shooting. Now retired I learn more and more every day about my Glock. Great thread here for newbies with time.

    :wow:
     
  4. Butch

    Butch RetiredDinosaur Millennium Member CLM

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    In case no one has said it yet, Welcome to GlockTalk!

    And....there are nine articles on my blog that I think all Glock newbs should read.

    :)
     
  5. kashdaddy

    kashdaddy Glockaholic

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    Easy, the factory spring has a more shiney metal surface like galvanize and the aftermarket heavy trigger spring has a more dark brown metal surface.

     
  6. tnd2

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    How do you guesstimate what your trigger pull weight will be(if you don't have a scale or a bunch of parts to try)?
    The connector has a weight rating, and the spring has a weight rating, what happens when you mix and match pieces?
    Stock G21 Gen3 5# connector w/spring
    NY1 trigger spring is supposed to be 8#, NY2 12#
    If I was to stay with the stock connector but go to the NY1 setup would I have roughly a 8# trigger pull, then switching to a 3.5# connector would reduce the pull by approximately 1.5# creating a 6.5# setup?
     
  7. auto-5

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    7lb from what I read.
     
  8. wydglide

    wydglide Freemason Glock

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    Can anybody explain what the Pros & Cons of the NY trigger spring? Ive tried to find why it was even made with no clear answers.


    side note: these threads on the history of Glock is just outstanding, Ive been through a few now and I'm just blowed away at the useful info....Great job guys!
     
  9. Butch

    Butch RetiredDinosaur Millennium Member CLM

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    When the New York State Police was looking at switching to Glocks they wanted the trigger pull to be heavier and more like the DA revolver trigger pull they were used to, and Glock made the original NY spring to give them what they wanted.

    The Pro to the use of a NY spring is that it makes the entire trigger pull heavier and thus harder to fire unintentionally.

    The Con to the use of a NY spring is that it makes the entire trigger pull heavier and thus harder to use well.

    It also increases pressure on the trigger bar/connector interface which appears to increase the possibility of having the two parts gall together and when that happens the gun can be near impossible to fire.

    Some folks like to say it makes the trigger reset 'more positive' but in reality it only makes it harder/heavier, which makes it harder to use well.

    No, I'm not a fan of the NY springs and I do my best to not let my friends use them. Friends don't let friends use NY springs! :)
     
  10. wydglide

    wydglide Freemason Glock

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    Great reply butch.....that is pretty much what I was thinking "something that can mess up" on a very simple system that just flat works Great as is!

    Thanks
    Glide
     
  11. phoenixg23

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    I respect this is an old Thread but, I am so thankful for it remaining accessable and live. I decided to detail clean and also polish the trigger assembly (.25 trigger job) on my Bride's G19 Gen 2. Took it apart and was lost, looked very different from my G23 Gen 3. Glad I did tear the gun down, there was a large plug of lint within the part the trigger spring sits. No wonder the trigger was so difficult to pull.

    Thanks again
     
  12. Farnarkle

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    Great post. Interesting.
    Thanks for the info.
     
  13. Moby 68

    Moby 68 Moby to replace my full name on my posts

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    Get on line and look at Lone Wolf they will probably have what your looking for with out a long drive. Good luck.
     
  14. Marcus99

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    Butch - Could you please expand on this issue? I recently bought a used gen 2 G19 that has the NY1 trigger installed. I bought a coil to replace the NY1 trigger, but after reading your post I am curious whether I should also replace the parts you mentioned. What should I specifically examine to see if I have, or may have, that problem?
     
  15. Butch

    Butch RetiredDinosaur Millennium Member CLM

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    I'd say to go ahead and replace the NY spring with the coil spring and lubricate the connector/trigger bar interface (as it should always be kept lubed anyway).
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    I expect you'll like the resulting trigger pull, it will make it much easier to control the trigger both when firing it and controlling the trigger reset. I would expect that the connector is fine and wouldn't need to be replaced, if there was a problem with the parts, it would be very noticeable when you pull the trigger.

    But the parts aren't expensive if you feel the urge to replace them.

    I like to suggest attending an outdoor GSSF match, most all of them have a factory armorer there, and they'll replace the spring as well as any other parts they feel the gun may need for free, and while you wait. Also, a 'Glock Day' event at a local dealer or LE dealer can get the same.
     
  16. Marcus99

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    Thank you Butch. Your response was very helpful. I have many Glocks, all with the stock 5.5lb trigger. I immediately noticed (and hated) the NY1 trigger, so out it went. I just hadn't heard of the potential issue that you referenced. Mine seems fine so I won't be worrying about it.
     
  17. -Dustin

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    trigger bar and connector total about $20...i would (and did recently, on my gen 2) replace both, simply for the fact that you'll know what you have in there. actually, i replaced all the springs.