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What rifle for Home Denfense???

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by Coffee Dog, Jul 24, 2012.

  1. Coffee Dog

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    Hello I am looking into an AR- rifle for home defense!
    I would like opinions on what rifle that would be fairly short in lenght but have at least an 18 inch barrel. My training in the Marine Corp was with a rifle and that's what I am comforable shooting!
    Thank-you:wavePlease recommend a brand that is reliable!
     
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  2. 12131

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    Well, you have your answer right there. Get the M4gery, 14.5 inch barrel w/ a permanent FH, and avoid the NFA hassle.:wavey:
     


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  4. countrygun

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    Years ago the answer was simple, an M-1 carbine.

    There is a whole lot to be said, and I am NOT an M-4 fan, if you have training already to sticking with what you know.

    If you want something "different" and don't want to get in to the "Classic M-1 carbine" world. look at the Ruger Mini-14, especially the 16" barreled "tactical" models.

    I would toss the AK in there but, if you are comfortable with the vertical grip thing stick to the M-4 and something like Hornaday "TAP" ammo for indoor use. That ammo alone is a good reason for sticking with the .223/5.56
     
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  5. Coffee Dog

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    Thank-you for your response!
    The state I live in requires a barrell lenght of mininum of 16 inches!:wavey:
     
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  6. Bilbo Bagins

    Bilbo Bagins Slacked jawed

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    I would toss out anything throwing out 7.62x39 rounds due to overpenetration, unless your in a real rural location.
     
  7. Bren

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    Or, even better, get it with a standard 16" barrel, since the only reason for the short barrel and permanent flash suppressor is to make it the same length as a standard barrelled M4 (but you still lose a couple of inches of barrel length). If you want a cool looking CAR-15 style flash suppressor, you can get one that slips over a 16" barrel and leaves it the same length it was before:
    [​IMG]
     
  8. Bren

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    Never heard of that. What state?
     
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  9. ghostrider88

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    I think ruger makes a 18 inch mini 14 about half the price of an ar ,for hd this should do the job
     
  10. Minnow

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    What state requires atleast an 18" barrel for rifles? Are you sure your not looking at shotgun minimum barrel lengths?
     
  11. Coffee Dog

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    My great state of New Jersey!:eagle:
     
  12. countrygun

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    Exactly my point.

    The ammo possibilities and performance just don't favor the 7.62x39
     
  13. M2 Carbine

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    My HD could range anywhere from inside the house to 40-50 yards outside, so my HD choice is the AR.

    I like the M4 type AR's. Have several of them.

    To make them 24 hour day dark defense guns I equip them with Red Dot sights and Streamlight TLR-2 laser/lights.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Coffee Dog

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    I just checked with our local police dept. and the barrell lenght has to be at least 16 inches!:wavey:
     
  15. M2 Carbine

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    Really? That's stupid, but what gun laws aren't.


    Well just get a 18 inch barrel AR.
    I have a couple long barrel AR's but I like the short barrel better.
     
  16. Minnow

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    I thought that sounded odd.
    I'd get any quality 16" barreled AR-15. A Colt 6920 sounds like a good place to start.
     
  17. Bren

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    That explains everything. Can you even have AR's there? I'm sure there are many 18" barrelled models out there, if you don't want to go to a standard 20" A2.
     
  18. HKLovingIT

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    Hop the fence and defect when the guards aren't watching. I have heard that PA accepts all political refugees from the People's Republics of New Jersey, New York and Maryland.


    I have a S&W M&P 15. I like it just fine and it has not had any issues even with less than stellar maintenance. That said for a bit more or depending on model, about the same, you could get a Colt. My next will be a Colt. I'm no expert but I've been happy with my S&W and it seems lots are happy with Colt.
     
  19. K.Kiser

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    Anything that reliably shoots the .223 cartridge should be plenty, but I've also seen some semi-auto carbine "Camp" 9mm's and such for sale on this board which would also be great for HD distances... Heck, even a lever action that shoots 38 special/357 mag, or a .44 mag lever gun that you could download with .44 specials would work great also...

    Anything that is reliable, easy to use, handily sized, and shoots at least a handgun powered cartridge up to the .223 power level should work just fine..