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What is your favorite brass for reloading .223 and why?

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by RMTactical, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. RMTactical

    RMTactical CLM

    Oct 7, 2000
    Behind an AR-15
    I have a ton of Lake City brass and Prvi (PPU headstamp). Then just a little Remington, Federal, PMP, etc...
  2. freakshow10mm

    freakshow10mm 10mm Advocate

    I'm fine with the major brands for general purpose. LC, Remington, Hornady, Winchester. I don't care for Federal brass in .223. For target loads, I just use the same headstamp in the batch. I don't spring for Lapua because it's too expensive for my needs.

  3. Hoser

    Hoser Ninja

    May 22, 2002
    Lake City for most of my rifles is fine. A huge majority of the 223 that I shoot is through an AR-15 or my M-16RR.

    My 223 bolt gun for Prairie Dogs and Coyotes is actually a 223 Ackley. I use Lapua brass for it.
  4. F106 Fan

    F106 Fan

    Oct 19, 2011
    Most of the brass I had laying around was Federal and it has worked fine. I just bought a few thousand mixed once-fired and I have no idea what they are. Don't care...

    For my AR-15, anything will do. It's not going to shoot much better than 2 MOA regardless of what I do. With an inconsistent 8-10# trigger, I have no great expectations.

    Now, for my .223 precision stuff, I have been using those same Federal cases. Since my grandson can shoot about 1-1/2" group at 300 yards with a Savage Long Range Precision Varmint and a somewhat dubious scope, I have no issue with the brass. But I want to keep the AR brass separate.

    So, for precision loads, I will buy a couple of hundred Lapua cases. It's not like I'll ever load multiple thousands of the precision stuff.

  5. GIockGuy24

    GIockGuy24 Bring M&M's

    Jul 14, 2005
    With Amber Lamps
    Federal cases are too thin in the case head, loose primer pockets and other problem with weakness. Remington cases are too soft and the rims get pulled out of shape or torn. Winchester cases seem pretty good. Hornady cases are the same as Winchester cases. Nosler cases are the same as Federal cases.
  6. Boxerglocker

    Boxerglocker Jacks #1 Fan

    Mar 6, 2003
    Lynnwood, WA
    I use primarily LC along IMI, and Federal brass. All my brass is acquired free mostly once fired from ranges, matches and friends. We get alot of LEO's at our Tac rifle matches and squading up with them you can clean up.

    Hozer, do you find significant improvements in using Lapua brass for your bolt gun? I've been debating if the results would justify the cost.
  7. Travclem

    Travclem Badass Member Lifetime Member

    Aug 4, 2008
    Lubbock, TX
    Lake City is my favorite. Remington is the most convenient because they aren't crimped.
  8. Hoser

    Hoser Ninja

    May 22, 2002
    When shooting at small targets out to 500-600 yards, yes it is worth it.

    I figure 500 pcs of brass will last the life of my barrel shooting 55gn Blitzkings or Ballistic Tips and 75 gn AMAXs.
  9. Boxerglocker

    Boxerglocker Jacks #1 Fan

    Mar 6, 2003
    Lynnwood, WA
    It would be kinda nice to just have one type of brass for the bolt only, and if you say it makes a difference. I certainly take your word for it.
    Are you annealing the .223 Lapua? How often?
  10. Pardoner


    Sep 28, 2000
    Lake Mary, FL
    Gov surplus 5.56 brass....

    Why, because I have more than 2000 lbs of it.
  11. dkf


    Aug 6, 2010
    I take it Norma brass is up to par with Lapua?
  12. Hoser

    Hoser Ninja

    May 22, 2002
    I anneal my 338 Lapua and 50 BMG brass every reload. 308, 260 and 243 every other reload. 223 and 223 Ackley, every three to four reloads. 300 Whisper, when I feel like it. And that isnt that often. I made 500 cases of 300 Whisper out of Lapua brass for my Whisper bolt gun. (223 AI / 300 Whisper switch barrel) I annealed them just cause I could.
  13. Hoser

    Hoser Ninja

    May 22, 2002
    It is a little softer, but excellent quality.
  14. shotgunred

    shotgunred local trouble maker

    Mar 1, 2008
    Washington (the state)
    The free brass I pick up at the tac rifle matches. Why it is all once fired and free.
  15. Boxerglocker

    Boxerglocker Jacks #1 Fan

    Mar 6, 2003
    Lynnwood, WA
    OK, Thread resurface time...

    I received 200 pieces of Lapua .223 match brass as a birthday gift and I am gonna get at least another 100 to rotate through my bolt gun. I'm really happy that I won't have to deal with sorting through all my mixed brass anymore that will strictly be dedicated to the AR and training match loads.

    1.) Should I FL resize and resize and then form fire? I will then neck size with a Lee collet die, for 4 firings?
    2.) Annealing? after 4 firings what method? I'm thinking manually using electric drill and socket with 450 templaq (should I even bother with Templag?).
    2. After annealing, would FL sizing and trim with my 650 and RT1200B be OK to start the process again?

    calling Hoser
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2012
  16. fredj338


    Dec 22, 2004
    I'll shoot anything in my ARs. If I ran a precision bolt gun, I would feed ti Lapua or RWS or Norma first.
  17. Hoser

    Hoser Ninja

    May 22, 2002
    I would not run Lapua 223 in a AR-15 unless I am shooting at small targets at 600 yards with a very accurate rifle.

    Save the Lapua brass for your bolt gun.

    If you anneal, without a doubt use Templaq. I would not anneal until maybe your 4th or 5th reload.

    I completely FL resize all virgin brass. Cant hurt and might help, sets everything to square one.
  18. Boxerglocker

    Boxerglocker Jacks #1 Fan

    Mar 6, 2003
    Lynnwood, WA
    Exactly the info I need. I'll only be using this for my bolt gun, no worries there. Thanks Hoser :wavey: