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What is this rifle?

Discussion in 'Military Surplus Forum' started by Veedubklown, Apr 16, 2012.

  1. I'm guessing it's old milsurp, but the bayonet lug, and bayonet. Anyway, I have no idea what this rifle is. My buddy asked if I could find a firing pin for it, he's missing more than than from the bolt. I also have no clue what it's chambered for, asside from a necked cartrige. There's very little stampings on this rifle, just the origional 4 didgit serial number.

    Grabed a few pics, hoping the GT braintrust can help me figure it out.


    What looks like a cleaning rod, is actually just about 4-6" long, and threaded on the end. No idea what it's for. The butt plate is just another piece of wood, I thought that was also weird. The whole rifle was odd, and I couldn't figure out what it was. Buddy says it may be an argentine mauser, but I saw nothing that would indicate that.

    The block on the side of the action in pic 4 is the release for the bolt. Another thing I saw, odd. The bolt also sticks back to the rear when the magazine plate comes all the way up. There's a floorplate in front of the trigger group that releases with a small latch in front of the trigger.
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  2. countrygun


    Mar 9, 2012
    Looks like a Japanese Arisaka from what I can see; It would likely be a 6.5 (,260) cal although it could be a later 7.7 (.303)

    edit to add: look at the top of the reciever front ring. There shoould either be something resembling a Crysanthymum (flower) or the marks where one was ground off. If it hasn't been ground off that adds a lot of value
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2012

  3. There is definitely an area on top of the receiver where it looks like it was ground off, and reblued. As I said, there's very little markings what-so-ever. I thought it looked too small to be what my friend thought (.30 cal), .260 sounds right.

    After looking around, it's definately a type 99, 7.7x58 jap. Thanks for the help!
  4. E-2-E

    E-2-E Long Trail

    Jan 12, 2010
    Southern New England
    Seems to be missing the safety knob as well, and I'm sure a firing pin spring. It also is a late war/ last ditch rifle. I was given a last ditch that was missing the above parts I mentioned, and I did buy the parts, but can't remember where. The markings after the serial# tell you what plant it was made in, IIRC.
  5. Decguns


    Dec 29, 2003
    It's a nice example of a last ditch Japanese type 99. Considering the poor quality of metals used by the Japanese at the end of the war, I wouldn't try to fire it. Hate to destroy a rather collectable piece of history.

    You can find parts at SARCO Inc or Numrich Gun Parts (e-gunparts). There's no telling if proper type 99 parts will fit in the simplified bolt. Might want to buy an entire bolt assy just in case.
  6. rhino673


    Feb 7, 2010
    X2. Some of the really late war stuff is horrible quality. It seems like i read somewhere that the really late stuff didn't even have a magazine follower. I guess you have to keep in mind that some of the Japanese were preparing to fight off the Americans with spears and hand to hand combat.