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What is this rifle?

Discussion in 'Military Surplus Forum' started by Veedubklown, Apr 16, 2012.

  1. I'm guessing it's old milsurp, but the bayonet lug, and bayonet. Anyway, I have no idea what this rifle is. My buddy asked if I could find a firing pin for it, he's missing more than than from the bolt. I also have no clue what it's chambered for, asside from a necked cartrige. There's very little stampings on this rifle, just the origional 4 didgit serial number.

    Grabed a few pics, hoping the GT braintrust can help me figure it out.

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    What looks like a cleaning rod, is actually just about 4-6" long, and threaded on the end. No idea what it's for. The butt plate is just another piece of wood, I thought that was also weird. The whole rifle was odd, and I couldn't figure out what it was. Buddy says it may be an argentine mauser, but I saw nothing that would indicate that.

    The block on the side of the action in pic 4 is the release for the bolt. Another thing I saw, odd. The bolt also sticks back to the rear when the magazine plate comes all the way up. There's a floorplate in front of the trigger group that releases with a small latch in front of the trigger.
     
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  2. countrygun

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    Looks like a Japanese Arisaka from what I can see; It would likely be a 6.5 (,260) cal although it could be a later 7.7 (.303)



    edit to add: look at the top of the reciever front ring. There shoould either be something resembling a Crysanthymum (flower) or the marks where one was ground off. If it hasn't been ground off that adds a lot of value
     

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  3. There is definitely an area on top of the receiver where it looks like it was ground off, and reblued. As I said, there's very little markings what-so-ever. I thought it looked too small to be what my friend thought (.30 cal), .260 sounds right.


    After looking around, it's definately a type 99, 7.7x58 jap. Thanks for the help!
     
  4. E-2-E

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    Seems to be missing the safety knob as well, and I'm sure a firing pin spring. It also is a late war/ last ditch rifle. I was given a last ditch that was missing the above parts I mentioned, and I did buy the parts, but can't remember where. The markings after the serial# tell you what plant it was made in, IIRC.
     
  5. Decguns

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    It's a nice example of a last ditch Japanese type 99. Considering the poor quality of metals used by the Japanese at the end of the war, I wouldn't try to fire it. Hate to destroy a rather collectable piece of history.

    You can find parts at SARCO Inc or Numrich Gun Parts (e-gunparts). There's no telling if proper type 99 parts will fit in the simplified bolt. Might want to buy an entire bolt assy just in case.
     
  6. rhino673

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    X2. Some of the really late war stuff is horrible quality. It seems like i read somewhere that the really late stuff didn't even have a magazine follower. I guess you have to keep in mind that some of the Japanese were preparing to fight off the Americans with spears and hand to hand combat.