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What ever happened wth the CCW holder shot outside Costco in LV ?

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by ysr_racer, Feb 17, 2014.

  1. ysr_racer


    Dec 28, 2001
    Happily in So. Cal.
    I think his name was Erik Scott ?

    Wasn't heal a SEAL or something?

    Anybody remember this, it was a few years ago.
  2. IndyGunFreak


    Jan 26, 2001
    He died as I recall..

    You talking about the one who was shot by the police?

  3. mixflip


    Mar 4, 2009
    This was years ago so my memory could be off a bit...

    His autopsy showed he had some type of medication in him. I think he was an Annapolis graduate not a SEAL.

    Costco had video tapes of the exact spot where he was but Costco conveniently said their surveillance system was down that day so there was no video.

    I also heard he was ripping into packages and ignoring employees demands to leave the property. Someone saw one of his 2 holstered pistols as he was ripping into the products and called police. I don't know if a Costco employee reported it as brandishing a firearm?

    Police make contact and give him orders to put his hands up. I heard he reached for his waistband (he did not reach for the sky) and shots were fired.

    2 handguns were found on him. Why a seemingly normal well educated man was acting abnormal and agitated in the store and why a CCW permit holder did not automatically put his hands one seems to know?

    Life is stranger than fiction sometimes.

    Just this last friday an unarmed man broke free from a police officer conducting a stop of a man who was harassing bicyclists out on a highway in the desert. The man ran to the patrol vehicle and grabbed for the AR15. He was told to stop...He didn't...and was shot dead.

    Life is strange. There are people out there who do strange irrational things.
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  4. I'm curious what happened to his girlfriend.

    As you remember, Scott was a West Pointer and had been full of painkillers. So much pain killers in his system that a MD had declared anybody with less tolerance would be dead. His gf comes into play because she had (soon before the event) been fired from a MD's office for stealing prescription pads.
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  5. Oh, the Scott family hired a lawyer to sue LVPD. Their lawyer is the son of LV's mayor. You can't get better odds than that anywhere in LV!
  6. frank4570


    Jun 25, 2004
    I've seen people on painkillers do some pretty wild stuff. It seems at some point sanity heads on to the back seat and lets the fantasy world drive for a while.
    I know a guy who drove down to walmart and parked his car. He walked in, got a cart, and went through the store picking out stuff he wanted. The just pushed the cart right out into the parking lot and went home with his stuff. His wife returned everything without a word exchanged.
    He was on meds for serious back problems.(he has a history of problems with drugs) Next day, same thing. This time he went to jail.
  7. SC Tiger

    SC Tiger Big, educated kitty cat!

    Aug 27, 2011
    South Carolina
    Not sure how many people here are familiar with Bill Carnes of 2nd Amendment Radio (he was on season 1 of Top Shot as well).

    He did a piece on this where he contended that Erik Scott was shot only because he was carrying in a Costco. He even played the tape of the police radio.

    Personally I never heard anything that was incriminating. The camera being down is suspicious but hardly conclusive.

    And for the record, if the account mixflip posted is accurate, I do not blame Costco for calling the police when a man is a) armed (legally or not) and b) destroying property despite being asked not to. I would not want one of my employees to confront someone like that and get shot.

    << Shops at Sam's but just because it is closer. I have heard (may have been by Carnes on the radio) that the LV (at least) Costco isn't very gun-friendly though.
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  8. ysr_racer


    Dec 28, 2001
    Happily in So. Cal.
    Agreed. The other one I wonder about is the homeowner that killed a masked invader in his neighbor's house, and it turned out to be his own son.

    Anybody remember that one?
  9. Sam Spade

    Sam Spade Staff Member Lifetime Member

    May 4, 2003
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  10. Ranger357

    Ranger357 Just pixels

    Jul 26, 2008
    A lot of times people get very suspicious and come up with conspiracies when a story comes out and someones described actions makes no sense.

    The problem is as a another thread describes, 70 million Americans are now on legal or illegal mind altering drugs, many that cause frequent or occasional erratic and/or bizarre behavior. Every day you can look at the news and see totally insane behavior by seemingly "normal" people.
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  11. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

    Yup. Scott had fatal levels of narcotics in his system (fatal for anyone not a hard core junkie with developed high tolerance).

    Family dropped the lawsuit when they couldn't have it both ways (only present their chosen narrative and ignore factual evidence).
  12. AZLawDawg

    AZLawDawg Oh, Oh, Oh!!

    Sep 10, 2005
    Phoenix Metro
    It was funny how fast that Scott thread scrolled away when the facts came out.
    He went from "highly disciplined West Point Hero" to "Eric who? Huh? What are you talking about?" overnight.
  13. ray9898


    May 29, 2001
    As said above, the facts started piling up which completely contradicted the wholesome character initially portrayed by the family. They disputed all accounts that he was in a deranged state which was pretty much indefensible when the autopsy showed lethal levels of controlled substances in his system.

    The lawsuits were unwinnable, they never accepted their son and his drug , addiction had little resemblance to the person he once was, they didn't want to open up their pocketbook when their claims were proven bogus.
  14. plp


    Feb 11, 2013
    Redneck Riveria
    The bizarre behavior is becoming more the norm than the exception, according to some folks in the business.

    With Obamacare now in full swing there are some meds covered, some meds that aren't. Doctor's offices are businesses, geared to turn a profit and cannot keep the doors open if there isn't a profit to offset the shortfall times every business encounters.

    Especially in the mental health field, many patients are being switched from one psychotropic to another, same with anti-depressants, to conform to what meds are approved.

    Some of these switches are predictable in their unpredictability.

    Some historians attribute the French Revolution to ergot poisoning on a wide scale, when rotted shipments of grain were eaten anyway as it was all they had. The hallucinogenic effects might have been what put the population over the top.

    While no tinfoil hats in my closet, thank you very much, it does give rise to consideration this may not be an unintended consequence, but rather a trigger to up the number of firearm related incidents to provide the social engineers with further justification for their agenda.
  15. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

    Apr 23, 2008
    Which means he may not have been high at all.
  16. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

    Apr 23, 2008
    You know these things how? Have you met with and interviewed his parents?
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  17. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

    Impaired for certain.
  18. Maxx702


    Mar 4, 2008
    Southern Nevada
    The Erik Scott incident occurred at a time where the Vegas police were involved in a couple of truly questionable shootings (an unarmed drug dealer was shot in the head while flushing his pot down the toilet, and a distraught unarmed veteran was shot dead during another confrontation).

    I shop at the Costco where Scott died. I followed the story with a lot of interest, but it didn't take long to figure out that Scott's death was a result of Scott's actions.
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  19. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

    Apr 23, 2008
    Not for certain

    Addict can be to just get back to zero

    Opiate addicts often use simply to placate withdrawals.
  20. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

    If is reasonable to believe a person with that much narcotics on board is impaired, zero using childish point arguing not withstanding.

    Reasonable adults understand and accept this.