close

Privacy guaranteed - Your email is not shared with anyone.

What a crapo charge..

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Detectorist, Dec 24, 2012.

  1. Detectorist

    Detectorist

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2008
    Messages:
    15,818
    Likes Received:
    4,841
    Location:
    Missouri
  2. Scott3670

    Scott3670

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2007
    Messages:
    3,476
    Likes Received:
    300
    Location:
    Northern Virginia
    I'll drink to that. Sorry, I just couldn't resist.
     

  3. goldenlight

    goldenlight

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2007
    Messages:
    5,063
    Likes Received:
    42
    At least the Senator is being held responsible for his actions.

    Usually, members of Congress literally get away with murder.:steamed::steamed::steamed:
     
  4. doktarZues

    doktarZues I'm anti-anti

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2003
    Messages:
    1,570
    Likes Received:
    22
    Location:
    Brevard County, FL
    Dang..tough break. Some balls on the arresting officer!

    I got pulled over 6 years ago after having a few drinks, my level of intoxication / BAC was undetermined, but the cop saved my life that day and after humbling scolding, allowed me to call someone to pick me up. Haven't set foot behind the wheel after drinking since. I guess my point is, some well placed discretion can go a long way. (Perhaps more so when dealing with a senator.) Look at some of the silliness that zero tolerance policies have generated like the eagle scout in high school who was expelled for having a multi-tool in his car.

    So who here would have let the good senator call for a ride home instead? Cops or not, anyone can play :)

    For me, assuming he wasn't a vomiting violent menace that was an immediate danger to himself and anyone around him, I would have detained him while someone from his office came and got him.
     
  5. TK-421

    TK-421

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2012
    Messages:
    10,441
    Likes Received:
    972
    Location:
    Pflugerville, TX
    I'd be surprised if they actually charge him with something. I'm betting they just toss it out or something like that.
     
  6. m2hmghb

    m2hmghb

    Joined:
    May 27, 2002
    Messages:
    8,671
    Likes Received:
    53
    Location:
    Livin in the country of NJ
    I wouldn't Doktar, too many times a cop has let someone slide only to have that person do something to injure themselves or others and then sue the cop stating they should have been arrested for being intoxicated.
     
  7. Resqu2

    Resqu2

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2007
    Messages:
    6,744
    Likes Received:
    1,159
    Location:
    SouthWest VA
    After seeing 26 years worth of death and destruction that drunk drivers cause I'm all for a cop being required to verify there under the influence then shoot them on the spot and roll em in a ditch. Pretty soon that problem would go away.
     
  8. MarinePride

    MarinePride

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2004
    Messages:
    264
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Botetourt County, VA
    I think all of congress should be drug tested. The results would be interesting, I'm sure of it.
     
  9. Gallium

    Gallium CLM

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2003
    Messages:
    28,685
    Likes Received:
    11
    Surprise! Another politician who is a hypocrite.
     
  10. GreenDrake

    GreenDrake Rip Lips

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2007
    Messages:
    6,970
    Likes Received:
    344
    Location:
    North Idaho
    Our Mormons can't handle their booze.
     
  11. Dan_ntx

    Dan_ntx

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2007
    Messages:
    2,248
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Dallas Area Texas
    Doktar...I don't understand what you are asking I guess.

    In my opinion, being arrested for DUI and bonding out only to face a fine and a term of probation (what almost every, if not specifically every, first time offender gets) constitutes "being let off easy".

    Drinking and driving is an epidemic. It kills thousands of people every year...many of whom were not drinking and/or driving. It needs to be taken seriously, and sadly it's just not.

    It's a typical response from those arrested for DUI to focus only on how their actions impact themselves...but if they considered how their actions potentially, and in far too many cases do, impact other lives with tragic consequences perhaps they would not drink and drive.

    I'm glad you saw the light. I'm glad you were able to stop a destructive behavior before it became destructive. But I don't believe anyone caught drinking and driving deserves any more leineniency than the already far too lenient courts provide. Go ask anyone who has had their life impacted by that crime (pretty easy to find) and I think you will hear a similar tone.
     
  12. Dennis in MA

    Dennis in MA Get off my lawn

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2001
    Messages:
    42,700
    Likes Received:
    2,811
    Location:
    Taunton, MA
    At least he didn't kill someone on the Senate Practice Squad.

    This has nothing to do with stupid and everything to do with arrogance.
     
  13. crash22

    crash22 Lost up north

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2012
    Messages:
    24
    Likes Received:
    0
    I have been on too many calls where the idiot was "just buzzed a little" while wearing s&w bracelets. Sadly, they don't think about (or care?) The family that is being loaded into the ambulance in critical condition. If you can "feel it" and get behind the wheel you should be (as resqu2 says) rolled into the ditch..
     
  14. HalfHazzard

    HalfHazzard Señor Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2012
    Messages:
    6,220
    Likes Received:
    2,275
    Location:
    Republic of Texas
    I know exactly what would happen to a military member who got a DUI. Tell me how a congressman should be any different?
     
  15. Kingarthurhk

    Kingarthurhk Isaiah 53:4-9

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2010
    Messages:
    10,687
    Likes Received:
    1,573
    Location:
    Texas
    Neat, they think the 2A is bad, but they can sure liqour up and point a 5 ton vehicle at anyone on the road causeing great bodily harm or death without any legitimate cause. And they wonder why their approval rating is somewhere beneath the doggie doo on the bottom of a boot.:upeyes:
     
  16. m2hmghb

    m2hmghb

    Joined:
    May 27, 2002
    Messages:
    8,671
    Likes Received:
    53
    Location:
    Livin in the country of NJ
    What I would love to see is a law passed where anyone with a felony conviction is unable to hold office, from town council up. Especially Sheriff's.
     
  17. elsolo

    elsolo

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2003
    Messages:
    6,269
    Likes Received:
    1,420
    Location:
    socal
    You sure about the penalties in your state, or just guessing?

    I don't know TX, but I spend a lot of time with drunks in CA and here is what the first timer gets:
    1.) two separate misdemenor charges
    2.) pay for the time of the arresting officer ($500-$1000)
    3.) Loss of license until completion of "program"
    4.) jail / community service / highway trash pick-up
    5.) go to listen to MADD victim panel, hear some mom tell about her dead kid
    6.) attend weekly alcohol education classes for 6-18 months (to get license back)
    7.) mandatory AA meeting attendance
    8.) Pay a crapload of fines, fees, and such, several thousand
    9.) Maintain SR-22 insurance (for what 7 yrs?) so your license doesn't get suspended.

    I am sure there is more, that's all I can recall of the top of my head. Most first time DUI offenders have no idea what is in store for them.
     
  18. Gallium

    Gallium CLM

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2003
    Messages:
    28,685
    Likes Received:
    11
    What if it's an illegal alien with no $$$?
     
  19. Kingarthurhk

    Kingarthurhk Isaiah 53:4-9

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2010
    Messages:
    10,687
    Likes Received:
    1,573
    Location:
    Texas
    That is incorrect. Illegal aliens often take jobs like construction where they are paid in cash. They don't pay tax on that cash, and then claim an earned income credit on their taxes and then get a hefty tax return. Also, they go to hospitals and claim to be indigent (no earned income), and don't pay their bills. But, those expenses get passed on to you with the high price of hospital bills and insurance premiums for insurance companies that get stuck with those high charges.

    Then there is the rampant crime. That costs tax payers quite a bit of money to house them in state prisons and local jails, so they are usually given 1/4th to 1/2th the sentence a United States citizen, so they are back out on the streets learning that criminal system is a revolving door.

    Drunk driving is common crime among illegal aliens, which causes lots of accidents and fatalities, which drives up your insurance costs in areas where they are highly prevelant.

    Also, property taxes are higher where they are prevelant to pay for ESL education. ESL teachers are specialized, and more expensive. Not to mention all the text book material that has to be printed in another langauge other than English.

    Also, added to the taxation is all the wellfare sought by them, as they are working for cash, and can show no income so WIC, Lonestar, or whatever you use in your state gets passed on to you in taxes.

    Then there is effect they have on elections as politicians pander to them hoping their very much illegal vote. Yes, they do vote, illegally. That affects the government around you at your local, state, and federal level.

    I could keep going, but, yes:

    Illegal Aliens $$$
     
  20. Gunny Lingus

    Gunny Lingus Think it moved

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2001
    Messages:
    1,252
    Likes Received:
    0
    Years ago, a drunk fool hit a school bus full of kids, and ignited the fuel tank. He lived, the kids died. He served a lengthy prison sentence, and got released.

    That's why I wouldn't even drink a beer or glass of wine and drive. It's not about getting caught, but about living with the consequences of what you've done.