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What 1911 is this??

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by 00Glazz, Nov 4, 2012.


  1. 00Glazz

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    Traded a ruger p95 for this 1911 today at a local gunshow! No markings what so ever on it besides the serial number?

    http://imageshack.us/a/img203/8030/20121104143531150.jpg

    http://imageshack.us/photo/photo/267/20121104143549247.jpg

    It has what appears to be a GI frame? Because it has the lanyard ring on the bottom of the fram by the magwell. But it doesnt have any slide markings or anything. And has hogue grips . Thats it. Any help is appreciated!


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  2. countrygun

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    How did any paperwork get done without a brand name?

    The picture was of no help.

    You traded a Ruger p-95 for it? No brand?

    Sounds like a kitchen table Franken11
     

  3. 00Glazz

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    No paperwork required at the gun show. Yep traded a decently used P95 blued for it. The guy said it was a rock arsenal. Which I am guessing he meant Rock Island. Got the pistol, 6 mags, holster and ammo for it, so figured I would take a chance on it. FWIW I shot it a little bit ago and it works flawlessly lol...
     
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    Hmm I don't keep up with the latest trends so i don't know who is making 1911s without putting their names on them but I know that slides are available, most from the Phillipines, that lack markings. But that photo wasn't much to go on.


    Of course I have always held, since the first time I built a 1911 from parts decades ago, that it didn't take a ton of money to build a 1911 that would work. I recently helped a young man in my neighborhood do just that.
     
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    The full name is Rock Island Arsenal so I assume it's them. They go $3-400 new, yours, not as much.


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    The logo on the grip doesn't look like that of Rock Island Arsenal. I couldn't read it but there may be a clue in that grip.

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    That's true, but grips can be changed.

    I found this article:

    http://www.gundigest.com/gun-collecting-firearm-collecting/1911-before-the-great-war/3

    The gun in the photo has similar markings for it's serial number. It doesn't mentioned the brand but just states the photo is courtesy of Rock Island Auctions.

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    Hmmm I am guessing it is a franken rock island then. The logo on the grip is hogue. They are aftermarket hogue grips. Its really only going to be used as a range/fun gun anyways. Not going to be carried or anything. So I am not too upset about it. I was just curious on if anyone had any ideas on it.

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    It should be a good range gun, let us know how it performs. Although now you have to spend more money on .45 ACP lol.


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    That is not a Rock Island Armory.
    Take the grips off, any markings under there?
    Never seen one without maker markings. Most likely a Franken-pistol
    from the seventies. I would have kept the Ruger.
     
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    The 1911 in the article is a 1911 model. The OP has a 1911A1 model frame.
    It is not even close,......Rock Island Auctions is a Auction House
    not a firearms manufacturer!
     
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    Lol, I was just doing Google image search of 1911s in order to find one that has similar serial number markings as the OP. I stated in my post that the article does not state the make of that particular 1911. No need to yell! Haha.


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  13. 00Glazz

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    Under the right side grip there is a stamp that says A.R. sales co
    So. Monte CA.
     
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    was not yelling!
     
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    Lol!

    Reminds me of this:

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    It's obviously an early model NN made by Guncrafter Industries...:supergrin:
     
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    Looks like the start of a custom 1911. LOL
     
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    I bought an old, unmarked Mauser style rifle. They listed it as Unidentified.
     
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    I realize that category exists but I have a hard time thinking about trading a Ruger off on a 1911 that fits in that category, unless I knew a lot about 1911s and REALLY wanted one.

    I'm glad it turned out well for the OP. I might have gambled and bought it outright as a build base.