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"We've got troops in 150 countries..."

Discussion in 'AWOT' started by cowboy1964, Jun 9, 2011.

  1. devildog2067


    Apr 20, 2005
    Almost certainly *technically* true, if you count the US Marines that guard US Embassies as "troops on foreign soil."

  2. HollowHead

    HollowHead Firm member

    May 16, 2005
    Where the buffalo roam
    If you include embassy security military, I think the number is much higher. HH
  3. Mrs. Tink

    Mrs. Tink Semper Fidelis

    Mar 1, 2005
    MSG Embassy security is not there to protect people--either the locals or the Americans. I'm not sure what "enemies" he thinks these people could be making.
  4. Louisville Glocker

    Louisville Glocker Urban Redneck

    Dec 17, 2010
    Louisville, KY
    Who knows where he got the number. It isn't critical. But we certainly do have a lot of bases spread out over the world. We have an empire. There is no way around that fact.

    The guy's main point in the article though, is that we're drowning in debt as a nation. His reference to troops was merely saying that they're costing us a lot.

    And yes, historically, empires can over-extend. Look at Rome. I think he has a valid point.
  5. Carrys

    Carrys Inquisitive

    Dec 28, 2006
    Green Country

    I certainly get your drift here and while it's a valid point, wouldn't US Embassies be considered US soil?
  6. Carrys

    Carrys Inquisitive

    Dec 28, 2006
    Green Country

    Yes they do, but "Empire"?

    Thoughts such as his, while perhaps well meaning.....always make me think of someone who spends 3/4 of their paycheck on drugs and the other quarter on food. And they always seem to think shorting their food budget even further will help their bottom line.

    This appears to make sense to them.
  7. cowboy1964


    Sep 4, 2009
    After I posted this I thought of embassy Marines.... but if that's what he's including he's just an idiot.
  8. devildog2067


    Apr 20, 2005
    Yes, I wouldn't count those Marines. I was just trying to illustrate "statistics don't lie, but liars use statistics"--I was trying to imagine a way that his statement could be technically true yet still not say anything.
  9. Carrys

    Carrys Inquisitive

    Dec 28, 2006
    Green Country

    Got it.

    But you should know sir, you just can't out mumble jumble those who are the masters of it.:shocked:
  10. 1 old 0311

    1 old 0311

    Jan 2, 2006
    Planet Earth

    In all due respect. Jim Rogers most investors know, he is a genius. You on the other hand are some guy(?) on a web site. Gee lets see, who is the most credible?:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
  11. DJ Niner

    DJ Niner Moderator

    Feb 13, 2001
    North-Central USA
    Looks like he got the number from Wikipedia:

    It references this .PDF from 2007, which does indeed show deployments of our folks to about 150 countries:

    And by my count, about half of those countries (74) have less than a dozen of our troops. Probably military advisors in many cases. Probably costs less to keep these folks in-country there for a year than the average congress-critter spends every weekend.
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2011
  12. Brucev


    Jul 19, 2009
    Soldiers overseas are soldiers overseas. Bring them all home. Eliminate all overseas bases period. Strip every base of everything down to the concrete. Bring all personnel and all material/equipment home. Auction the surplus. Put personnel into combat positions. If not able to serve or not needed, muster them out. Let them take their job skills into the civilian market. They will do the country more good there than overseas. As well, the many nations that now suck on the tit of the U.S. taxpayer will get to forage elsewhere for their finances. And if they ever again choose to ask for the "imperial" U.S. to come visit and help out with a problem, they can ask. They can always ask. Who knows. We might even lend them a water hose to help them douse their house fire... if they can pay. Never again should the U.S. ever help anyone anywhere unless it is in the provable best financial interest of the U.S. taxpayer. The opinions of non-tax payers and politicians are not relevant.