I tried out my advantage arms kit and noticed that it FTE with a loaded magazine. What happens is the firing pin hits in the top corner and the case gets stuck, the extractor tries to pull it out and the next round in the mag jams into the back of the spend casing still in the chamber. So i was pretty pissed at that since i spent 300 dollars for it. I went to my 40 reloads and was trying out the gap floorplates (which i like) and some new mags then this guy and his dad come with a few guns. He sets up his target at 7 yards and begins to shoot; as I'm reloading my mags i overhear him say, "look at my shots, these bullets are reloaded and not as good as factory." I was thinking to myself maybe he means hes shooting BVAC or S&B but then i see him picking up brass. I bet you could take the most innaccurate load possible and shoot it the same as factory ammo @ 7 yards. Its not like he was shooting 1/4" groups more like 5". Although to be fair im still a paper plate at 10 yards but was changing my grip every magazine and started hitting a 3" spread. Anyway this guy was a total tool and thought i had to share. On a good note i snagged a guys 9mm 45acp 38 special brass that he was about to huck. Im amazed at how much difference grip can change your groups. /rant Wanna kill these ads? We can help!