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Wee little 1911

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by Ruggles, Jun 1, 2011.


  1. Ruggles

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    So I made the mistake again of going to a gun store at lunch today. Been wanting a smaller gun to carry since it is freaking hot here already. 101 degrees today! Yikes and very humid, gotta love south Texas.

    Looked at a number of smaller guns and came away with this after looking at 3" 1911, PK380, LCP, Kahr, PPK & PPK/s etc. This one seemed the best balance of small size, shoot ability and the manual of arms of the 1911 which I normally carry some type of.

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    The basic Sig 238, Nitron model with night sights.

    It's a small little thing to say the least. Here are some comparison pics with a 5" and a 4" 1911 for those who not seen this little guy in person.

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    And the holster it came with, some "testing" ammo

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    Have not shot it yet but early observations are:

    1. The small size is clearly a win for CCW
    2. Weight is around 15oz so that is nice as well
    3. Clearly designed for CCW, well rounded with no sharp edges, the hammer recesses into the gun nicely when cocked.
    4. You can loaded and unload the gun with the safety engaged, nice feature.
    5. The sights while well proportioned (i.e. small) to the gun but have normal sized night sites inserts. This creates a very very nice and clear sight picture, in fact by far the best sight picture I have ever seen on a gun this size.
    6. Slide lock/release is also larger than normal on this gun. Not so large as to cause an issue but very easy to engage with the thumb. Again a nice change from some guns this size.
    7. The included holster is a nice bonus. With this clearly being a CCW it makes sense that the buyer need something to use until they find a more longterm holster. Thumbs up to Sig for adding this.
    8. Steel, steel and more steel. Even the guide rod is steel. No offense but I like steel over those darn plastic guns......

    The only thing I can speak negatively about is Sig only including 1 magazine. I think they could add $15 to the MSRP include 2 mags and call it a day.

    Anyways for a 1911 guy or girl looking for a small carry gun this seems like a very good option. Manual of arms is the same and the trigger is very 1911 like, it comes in at around 6-7lbs but that is fine on a gun like this IMO.

    I am looking forward to testing this out for reliability. Not crazy about the .380 in general but as a trade off for this size gun I think it is very workable. Gonna stick with FMJs for carry as I am not sure the 2.7" barrel is going to give enough velocity for JHPs.


    I paid $525 for it, not sure how that stacks up but seems fair to me. Anybody know what the average street price is on these? First time I have been in this gun shop but their prices on models I am more familiar with seemed fair.


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  2. thecableguy

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    I didn't even know these were around. When are you going to shoot it? Would really like to read a range report. Looks it would make a really good BUG. Congrats man.
     

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    Congrats! :cool:
     
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    Nice! Can't wait to hear how it shoots.
     
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    Congrats! :cool:
     
  6. CMG

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    Nice choice.

    In the ultra-hot summer months I carry the same gun, and the locked-breach really tames the recoil in such a small gun.

    BTW, I run the older MetalForm (made for the Colt Mustang) mags in mine without issues.

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  7. Ruggles

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    Thanks all!

    Good to know about the Mustang magazines, I was not aware of that :)

    I hope to shoot it within the next 7-10 days depending upon work. I will update this thread when I do :)

    Now I want wood grips dang you! LOL. Have you had any reliability issue with you 238?
     
  8. Hokie1911

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    Ruggles, let me be the voice of reality. Why the F didn't you get the rainbow titanium???
     
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  10. Ruggles

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    :rofl: Dude they so had it! If fact when I looked in the case (remember I had not been to this store before) I saw the 238 and said "sweet" and then saw it was the rainbow one. I was like "errrrrrrrrrr ummmmmm am I man enough to pull that off?"

    Then I breathed a sigh of relief when in the next case they had about 4-5 different version of the 238 including the one I bought :rofl:

    Now I am not saying I could not have pulled off the rainbow one cause I do plan on being a pimp when I retire from my current job. But for now the basic black will do. :supergrin:
     
  11. midliferally

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    I've got one too. It's the de-horned carry model. It has rounded edges. I'll try to post pics tomorrow. Nice little gun. I also bought it because of the 1911 like controls. Surprisingly accurate.
     
  12. Ruggles

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    Oh oh oh they did not have that one.......if they did they would have had two partially digested tacos on their counter that I had scarfed down as I drove to the store at lunch time. :ack:

    WTF??? Who in Germany thought that looked good? :rofl:

    No wonder we kicked their ass twice last century :tongueout:
     
  13. Cobra64

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    Congrats Ruggles. They are cute little devils.
     
  14. midliferally

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    There is a recall notice posted on Sigs website. Only certain serial numbers are affected. I would think yours would not bee affected but you might want to check.
     
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    If you buy one of these I will drive over and kick you in the bojangles. :supergrin:
     
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    If you have a SIG SAUER P238 with a serial number between DA000501 and DA003216, please cease use of the firearm immediately. Not all P238s within the identified serial number range are affected; therefore, it is imperative that you contact us via the UPGRADE HOT LINE at 1 (866) 446-1914. An operator will take your information and confirm if your firearm is required to be returned for Upgrading. If necessary, you will receive a certified package from SIG SAUER that will contain a UPS shipping return label, a Return Merchandise Authorization Number, and a box to return the firearm. Simply affix the provided UPS shipping label to the supplied box (completely covering the existing shipping label) and bring the box to a designated UPS drop-off location. Please be certain to include the magazine along with the original SIG SAUER blue gun box. If you have questions or would like further information, you may contact SIG SAUER CUSTOMER SERVICE at 603-772-2302 (Choose Option # 3).
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    This does not affect ANY of the 27Axxxxxx serialized pistols.
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    We apologize for any inconvenience and appreciate your immediate cooperation in the return of your P238 handgun.
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  17. Fedor

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    Cute, but I wouldnt call it a 1911.
     
  18. Ruggles

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    "Congrats Ruggles. They are cute little devils."

    Thanks, they are cute but did not want to be the first guy to call them "cute" :)

    "There is a recall notice posted on Sigs website. Only certain serial numbers are affected. I would think yours would not bee affected but you might want to check."

    Just checked and mine is one of the "27A" serial number guns so it is good to go but thanks for the heads up!
     
  19. mrsurfboard

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    The range master at my range has one. Tried it, a little small for my liking. I like the Sig P232 better in .380
     
  20. Ruggles

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    Well with a little fertilizer, sun, water and love who knows what it might grow up to be :tongueout:

    It is about as 1911ish as you can get with out being a 1911 IMO. Clearly a copy of the Colt Mustang which clearly was a copy of their on bread and butter gun the 1911. It has some strong Signess to it as well but closer enough to a 1911 for me. :tongueout: