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Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by snerd, Jul 22, 2012.
Agree or disagree?
Without loyal agents, and the support they get from Americans , Washington would own nothing. Thanks 'conservatives'...
Hard to believe he's trying to win re-election, spouting this nonsense, isn't it?
Nobody owns me...period.
That is about the strangest drivel I've ever heard. What is he thinking?
And even harder to believe that the poll numbers are as close as they are, even with him spouting that nonsense.
He sounded like a prickly Feudal Lord, confused as to why the peasants revolt. "See all I've done for you?"
Just wait and see what we do for him this November...like put him out of a job!!!!
"Master of the World" feeling his oats ...
Why is he saying these things?
Well...HELLO...think about it.
Right now, only about 53% of those that drag home a paycheck actually pay income taxes. Currently, about 48% off all US households receive some sort of govt. assistance. About 16% (when you add in the people that stopped looking) of the people are unemployed and dependent on govt.
With numbers like that...Obama can feel emboldened to say things like that and not only get away with it but ramp up support from an ever growing base.
More takers....less makers.
...all by design.
Lose your place of residence (with no means of support) one time with no place to go (or any family) and get back with me. Your views will have markedly changed.
I've been down that road. My views haven't changed in the least. If anything I've become even a more firm believer in self-reliance.
Getting help and being owned are entirely two different concepts.
Bottom line is if you know you can walk away, even if you don't, you are not owned. If you don't understand that then you are owned.
This is important.
It's about freedom of choice. I hope I've made sense because this to me is one of the huge differences between those who are self-reliant and not 'owned' and those who are dependent on the government and others.
Nothing is about what "we think". It is all about what "he thinks".
That is why he can say this crap.
Not to a leftist.
What is it, something like nine out of ten startup businesses fail...............shouldn't he take credit for them too?
Amazing how somebody who has never worked a "real" job is such an expert on the subject.
It doesn't matter...left or right...no one can own you unless you let them.
He's talking spurious drivel, I'm stating a fact...it's about personal choice and personal freedom.
No one owns me and it will stay that way period. I don't know how I can be more emphatic about this.
That would be Bush's fault.
Someone that has had everything handed to them believes anyone that has anything has to have gotten it the same way. Narcissism personified!
Left and right do come into play.
I don't think you'll hear many on the right stating that government is the reason you are where you are.
I get your point and I agree with it.
Mine was that, to a leftist, it's all the same. And we see that more and more as they reveal their true feelings.
And the media is right there to say, "Oh, Obama didn't really say that."
I agree with what you are saying. I misunderstood what you meant originally.
Not a problem. I think we're on the same page with this.
He can't run from the center again, so he's going hard left. He's trying to make the case that everyone should have equal outcomes. Regardless of how you behave, how hard you work, how smart you are and the risks you take, you deserve no more than the next person.
It's straight out of the Marxist play book. He is a Marxist. When he says he wants to "fundamentally transform America", I take him at his word.