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Wanting a new gun: Roll pins vs Solid pins

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by tenifer17, Feb 17, 2012.

  1. tenifer17

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    Hey guy I am wanting the new S.A. XDS very badly and I was all ready to buy it when it gets here in March but I have started thinking really hard about it.
    Our Glocks have simple solid pins that can be taken out by just about anything which is great for easy detail stripping or emergency detail stripping for whatever you need to do. This can be done by most any sharp skinny item like a simple ink pen or whatever. But the XDS and all XD's and even the M&P's all have roll pins. They reuire special punches for them in order to get them out and to get them out without deforming them.
    Am I really crazy about just saying screw it on the new XDS simply because it has roll pins ? My M&P had a manual safety and I removed it . I had to use a special punch to get out the roll pins and I had to mount it on a block of wood and hammer that pin out hard ! If it were me Glock I would just simply push out the pin and whallah ! easy done!
    What are your thoughts on Roll pins vs solid pins.
    I think I may just stay with good ole Glock and their solid pins. And I may get a good used G30 :cool:
    I got some extra money comming from work and I want to treat myself to a good gun . It was gonna be the XDS but I am thinking the G30 Standard model Gen 3 or a Gen 3 G21 standard model ( I hate the SF models)
    Sorry for the rambling on .
    What are your thoughts on roll pins vs solid pins ? And why is S&W and S.A/HS using roll pins instead of solid pins?
     
  2. Bob Hafler

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    I think your making way to much of the roll pins. Roll pins have been used for years with great results. Abrams tanks use roll pins on many of there shafts. Like I said your making much to do about nothing.
     


  3. tenifer17

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    Yes I think you maybe right. Maybe I am wanting a reason to buy another Glock :cool:. But it is kinda nice to be able to completly break down your gun with only an ink pin:supergrin:
     
  4. dr_gonzo

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    My XDM uses roll pins too. Just buy a $10 set of punches and be done with it.
     
  5. ronin.45

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    Don't hate the XDs because of roll pins. Hate it because it's about 10oz heavier than it should be. Roll pins are fine.
     
  6. Locoweed

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    When confronted by roll pins in some of my firearms I simply ordered a set of the special punches from Brownells. Problem solved. At the same time I ordered a set of metric Allen (hex) head bits too just to take care of some European guns I had (like my three Anschutz). It's not a big deal and the roll pins are widely used. Why fight it and let it drive your buying decisions?
     
  7. Bob Hafler

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    How do you HATE a gun over a few onces in weight?:faint: I dislike glocks grip angle compared to a 1911's but don't hate it.
     
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2012
  8. farmer2

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    I sold an xd that I loved 7 years ago because of Springfield's unwillingness to ship parts. Is this still their policy? If so, in my opinion, is a great reason not to buy one! We can get any glock part we need, from a 100 different venders, to our door step in 2 days.

    farmer2
     
  9. FLIPPER 348

    FLIPPER 348 Happy Member

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    ...you are thinking way to hard
     
  10. zackwatt

    zackwatt That's a Bingo! Lifetime Member

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    I hate dealing with roll pins, but that's because they do their job so well.

    If one were to be better then the other, I would have to choose the roll pins. In theory solid pins can work their way out, and roll pins cannot.

    If you have a firearm with roll pins just get the correct tools AND just replace them everything you remove them. Problem Solved.
     
  11. I have never had a roll pin walk it's way out of a gun. Can't say the same for solid.
     
  12. collim1

    collim1 Shower Time!

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    I have two Sigs with solid pins and one with roll pins, cant tell a difference. Neither have ever drifted out of place and all three are shot often.
     
  13. Pete250R

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    the XDs is 21.5 ounces. Do you realistically expect it to weigh 11.5 ounces? :wow:
     
  14. ronin.45

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    It was originally listed at 29oz. Did it change? There were many threads about it when the gun was announced.
     
  15. Pete250R

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    someone mis-quoted someone else. You know how those things go. The true weight is 21.5 oz