Hello all. I made a thread last week about using a 20g pump gun for deer hunting... I had some miscommunication with a friend, and thought I was invited to hunt with him this fall. He just bought land with a cabin, and this year wants to hunt it alone to check things out. I also believe that I am not mistaken in thinking that he doesn't want to take a "newbie" out hunting, and basically have to babysit / guide him, especially on property that is new to him. So right now that option is out, and I am figuring I may wait until next fall to hunt, unless something pops up in the meantime. Anyways... in talking to some people about hunting, I am getting conflicting information (as usual). I am just looking to have my "first outing" hunting. I honestly don't expect to get a deer. I have never done it before, I just want to at least taste the experience. I don't expect someone to "guide" me, although that would be nice. Even if it just means walking into the woods for 10 minutes with a gun and then walking back out. I have been target shooting for years. I in no way consider myself an "expert", but I know my way around guns. More than a few people I've talked to are saying things like: - you need a rifle with scope, at least 30-30, preferably 30-06. New England is all woods, at least where I'd expect to be hunting. I just don't see me having 100 yard shots in heavy woods. What is wrong with a shotgun? What is wrong with open sites? I have a 20g pump gun that I am confident with. Do I need to buy a potentially expensive gun just for my first time out? - you need camoflage. I was planning on getting some hunter orange, at least a hat, probably also a vest. With that, I was just going to wear jeans and a denim winter coat. Do I really need to outfit myself at Cabela's with thousands of dollars worth of camoflage custom hunting outfits? (at least it seems that much) - you need deer cover scent, drips, spray, etc. Again, just for my first time out? And other stuff. This is all very discouraging for a potential hunter. From most people, when I say I've never hunted but would like to try, they seem to roll their eyes and then begin a long talk about all the stuff I need to buy, all paperwork and regulations I need to go through, you have to do this, and this, and this, all the effort I will have to do. Makes me not want to even try hunting. With all the talk about having to "keep the tradition alive", promote hunting, preserve our rights, etc honestly I kinda thought that I would get a more welcoming attitude from hunters. I know that I have to understand the regulations, get permits / tags / license, know what I am doing with a gun (which is a big reason I'd prefer to use the shotgun I've been shooting for decades). I just wish I could get some positive reinforcement. I am assuming (and hoping) that there are more welcoming hunters out there who welcome "newbies". Okay, so now that I've had my little rant... didn't really mean to go off like that... What would you tell someone who has never hunted, wants to try, and has limited equipment and a limited budget?