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Want to consolidate to one 9mm round

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by XDRoX, Apr 19, 2010.

  1. XDRoX

    XDRoX

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    Hickok45 told me that one of the things I should do to get better is pick a round that I like and stick with it. He said he has been reloading the same exact 9mm for years.

    I already decided on the powder (WST). But I still need a bullet. I would like your recommendations on different brands and weights.

    So far I have shot Berry's (115gr) and Rainier (124gr). I like the Berry's much more as they are more uniform in size and weight than the Rainier. Although I prefer the lower recoil of the 124gr bullet with less powder.

    So I'm leaning toward 124gr or 147gr. Probably 147gr. Also probably plated as they as cheaper than jacketed and cleaner than lead.

    So I need to try some different brands to see what I like best.

    If you could only shoot one 9mm bullet for the rest of your life, what would it be?

    Thanks
     
  2. Colorado4Wheel

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    The rest of your life is a long time. Considering the cost involved I would make a Lead Bullet in the 125gr weigth range and be done with it. Oh, I didn't mention buying a bottom pour furnace and a mold did I?
     


  3. If you go with lead don't shoot them in Glock pistols
     
  4. Colorado4Wheel

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    Any 124 gr bullet. Pick a Powder you like. No offence but "Hickok45" sounds like a really boring guy.
     
  5. GioaJack

    GioaJack Conifer Jack

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    Listen to Little Stevie, he has almost two months experience in casting. :supergrin:

    Actually he's right, casting is the cheapest way to go in the long run plus gives you almost unlimited versatility without depending on outside vendors.

    Perhaps I misunderstood part of your post... with like velocities a LIGHTER bullet will produce less recoil than a HEAVER bullet. If you like the heavier bullet but want less recoil simply back off your velocity... assuming Power Factor is not a consideration.

    Jack
     
  6. XDRoX

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    With the heavier bullets I'm able to use less powder, therefore less recoil. I'm not concerned with the power factor. I should have been more clear.

    I'm not really wanting to dive into the casting realm yet. I think the fumes are making some of you guys crazy:supergrin:

    I'm thinking 124gr since it is a good medium size. So what brands do you guys like?
     
  7. Colorado4Wheel

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    I think your overthinking this all just a little. Get what you can, when can, if the price is good. I have used Montana Gold, Zero, Rainers, Precision Delta, Precision, Remmington (I think it's been a while). When all you do is punch holes in some version of paper, or if you get lucky get to knock over a steel plate, it just seems silly to worry to much about what bullet you are using. With 124 gr FMJ bullets they are all going to have just about the same bearing surface and load to about the same fps with a mid range load. I wouldn't sweat it.
     
  8. unclebob

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    I use 135gr. X-treme bullets, and REX 2 powder. I do not use lead bullets. Smoke they produce. Sucks in a match when there is no wind and you cant see the target. Don’t know if I really want to get back into casting. Would have too rob a bank too buy new barrels for my Glock’s. Then could not use them during the match.
     
  9. robin303

    robin303 Helicopter Nut

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    I use Berry's 115 for plinking and paper matches and load Berry's 124 for steel matches.
     
  10. PCJim

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    If I had to settle on only one 9mm bullet, it would be a 124gr JHP of any of the various manufacturers. As C4W stated, the design will be similar enough that a standardized recipe would work for any brand.

    My rationale for the choice? A JHP will almost always be preferred over a FMJ to provide a higher degree of self defense, and the manufacturing process means that the bottom of the bullet will not be exposed lead (to eliminate any concern for indoor shooting). 124gr is the mid-weight bullet for the caliber, and while slightly more expensive than the 115gr, it is much cheaper and more readily available than the 147gr.

    Personally, I won't standardize on any weight or design. I have probably seven different weights/designs of 9mm on hand, with more on order. With six acceptable handgun powders currently on hand, I can load to any specific need that I might envision.
     
  11. zeke66

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    I currently only load one plinking load for the 9MM. 115gr Berry's Plated Bullet over 4.7gr W231, 1.150 OAL. Cycles well, is accurate and pretty mild recoil. Just about perfect.
     
  12. I'm sticking with a 125gr RFN sized to .358. 147 grain has too much recoil IMO.

    +1 on the casting thing. Sure you can go buy bullets somewhere, but I like taking old, greasy dirty wheelweights and turning them into highly accurate projectiles that cost very little in materials. It's a hobby in and of itself.
     
  13. GLShooter

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    A life time for one load is TOO long!! LOL I shoot a standard 115 JRN in my 9 MM's for matches across the board unless the supply is dried up then I go with 124's.

    I don't load 9 MM SD ammo. I stick with Silvertips or HydraShoks for that.

    I prefer BE or 231 but am not above using some powders i have one in matches over the years as I believe that if it works and is free it makes ideal practice stuff and the serious Gold mining is done with the stand rd load in use.

    I admit my 45 ACP load has been a 200 gr H&G 68 over a charge of BE to make major for years in IPSC but when PPC came about I started working with the 185's for the lighter recoil. They feel real odd with such low velocity but PPC is accuracy at work not power.

    Greg
     
  14. ron59

    ron59 Bustin Caps

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    You're the guy who JUST got his press, and you're ready to make final decisions?

    Not being rude... just pointing out that maybe you should do a little experimenting before setting things in concrete.

    You can get a Lone Wolf barrel and shoot lead... or buy moly-coated lead which is cheaper than FMJ, or buy cheap 115gr FMJs.

    Me... I like the 147grain bullets. I've reloaded over 12,000+ Montana Gold bullets over the last year and I LOVE them, but I'm about to do a trial run of some Black Bullet molys... they're way cheaper. If I like them (worried about smoke as I practice indoors)... I'll shoot them for practice and shoot the MGs for competition.

    And you were right... loaded to the SAME power factor, the 147gr load will feel softer than the 115gr load. That's why I like 'em.
     
  15. I'm consolidated to one type of bullet. It's called "whatever is in stock and doesn't cost more than a complete factory round".
     
  16. GlockCannon

    GlockCannon Glock-a-holic


    Hickock is a great guy, I don't know the man personally but sure love his you-tube channel!!

    Check it out!
    http://www.youtube.com/user/hickok45
     
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  17. Colorado4Wheel

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    Just telling people to get one powder and one bullet for the rest of your life???? Or even a extended period of time???? It's just reloading 9mm not sending a rocket to the moon, it's just not that complicated. I say buy a case of 124gr, then a case of 147gr, even a case of 115gr (but they suck, but you should find out for yourself). Then get a pound of a bunch of common powders. Beg borrow steal, Gio's chrono (he's a heavy sleeper and never locks his doors). Seriously, one bullet, one powder? BORING. Even I have loaded Powder Pistol, Titegroup, Bullseye and Solo 1000 in 9mm. And I don't even experiment that much compared to others.

    Nice Avatar BTW, who is that, what movie?
     
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  18. RustyFN

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    I know what you mean. I think I'm the only caster here that hasn't been affected. :tongueout:
     
  19. Colorado4Wheel

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    Your avatar would imply otherwise.