i called my local gun store today to see if they had a gen3 17 with factory night sights and if not ......then if they could order one directly from glock for me. i was told that ever since 2010, glock doesn't ship guns with factory night sights. but (of course) they would be happy to order the gen3 17 and install night sights for me ($$$) . i dont know if they were talking about just gen3's or gen4's too. was i getting taken for a ride so that they could make a few extra dollars off of installing the sights? does glock really not ship new guns with factory night sights like they used too? ps... if anybody has a good source for a gen3 17 with factory night sights plaese let me know about it. impact guns just sold out this week.