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Visiting Las Vegas, carry options?

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by steveksux, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. steveksux

    steveksux Massive Member

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    So, looks like I'll be visiting Vegas in April.

    Looking at handgunlaw.us, any other helpful info appreciated.

    What I think that says:
    No carry in the terminals of airports, assuming that includes non-secure areas?
    Planning on visiting Grand Canyon, so any helicopter rides, would have to leave in the car it looks like.

    Signs have no legal weight, only prohibited in public buildings like schools, govt buildings, including police, and such

    Casinos are fine, they may ask you to leave if you're discovered, and you must then leave.

    No drinking while carrying, restaurants that serve like Red Lobster, etc ok. Bars not ok. Is it a 51% rule like Michigan?

    Didn't see anything about backup guns. Knives ok < 3".

    Last time I looked the county Las Vegas was in had more restrictions, and I don't think MI permit was valid there, you had to apply to them to get permit. That seems to not be the case, state pre-emption has taken precedence now, MI permit is good statewide in NV now.

    Anything I missed or have wrong? Open carry an option? Not planning on it, but if the wind blows up my shirt, is it like FL where you can be in trouble because open carry is illegal?

    Randy
     
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  2. CTfam

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    I bought a cheap folder out there and ditched it before my flight out. I wasn't in a postion to be packing heat out there. :drink:
     


  3. Kodiak Ken

    Kodiak Ken Millennium Member

    I think you have it mostly right. If a business posts a no gun sign every exit then you are not supposed to bring one in. They can ask you to leave and if you don't it becomes a trespass issue.

    For more information, check out Nevada Shooters: http://www.nevadashooters.com/forumdisplay.php?f=31

    Good luck in Vegas
     
  4. xmanhockey7

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    I know you're asking about NV law but Michigan does not have a "51% rule". The law requires that their primary source of income be from the sale of alcohol by the glass to be consumed on premises. But there is no "51% rule". And no they are not the same thing.
     
  5. kensteele

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    While carrying at the grand canyon, i never entered any building whatsoever. that included the restroom that were buildings, instead i used the portable restrooms. since this was my 5th time there, no need to go inside of anything. don't know about the shuttle bus.
     
  6. im413

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    You are close. Signs hold no legal weight except in Govt Buildings. NV is a very gun friendly state outside of Clark County (it's where Las Vegas is) the City of North Las Vegas used to have California Style Laws, but they were struck down by the state 4 years ago. They still try to enforce them from time to time, but lose there rear end in court Everytime.

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  7. jpa

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    Very few hotels will hassle you as long as concealed remains concealed. The MGM Grand Garden Arena (concerts and such), the Hard Rock Cafe on the Strip and the Stratosphere tower have metal detectors and will ask you to go put your gun away. I heard MGM security will secure it for you, Hard Rock Cafe did the same for me (locked file cabinet in their office).

    There is no law against carrying in a bar. The law is that you may not be in possession of a firearm while intoxicated, and the limit is .10, not .08. So you can have a drink or two while carrying and be perfectly legal. Not the best idea and I expect the anti-drinkers to start flaming the idea any second. However it's not illegal to do so.

    Open carry is legal, brandishing is a non-existent law. Closest we have is "Drawing a deadly weapon in a threatening manner."

    I would leave the gun behind if you're doing one of the helicopter tours. They don't use metal detectors and there is no TSA screening, but I'd imagine someone would have a problem with it.

    The only restriction that recently changed regarding Clark county was the requirement for non-residents to register their firearms. It doesn't apply anymore so you're GTG.
     
  8. Don't OC on the strip unless you want a visit from Metro.
     
  9. steveksux

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    What's the difference then? If they make less than 50% on alcohol sales its not their primary source of income. If its >51% its their primary source of income.

    Randy
     
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  10. xmanhockey7

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    Not necessarily. Lets say the bar or tavern sells food, merchandise (clothes, key chains, golf balls with their logo, hats, jackets, etc.), and of course alcohol sold and consumed on premises by the glass. Food accounts for 30% of the businesses income, merchandise accounts for another 30%, and alcohol accounts for 40% of their income. Is the percentage of alcohol sold over 50%? No. Is it their primary source of income? Yes and that would make it a pistol free zone*.

    *Open carry with a CPL would still be legal.

     
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  11. steveksux

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    If that's the case, then I would say alcohol is not the primary source of income. Merch and food are.

    Any case law on that? That would be the acid test.

    Randy
     
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  12. xmanhockey7

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    Good point. I'm honestly not 100% sure now. I posted this on migunowners.com.
     
  13. steveksux

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    Thanks.... yeah, until some court somewhere sorts it out, it could really go either way.

    Probably depends on which type of bar they catch the first test case in and if they feel like hanging him out to dry... :rofl:

    Randy
     
  14. xmanhockey7

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    Yeah I think we need more ways to confuse people on the gun laws in Michigan.
     
  15. Lowjiber

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    I didn't know there was an issue at Costco. I live in Vegas and shop while CC'ing at Costco all the time.

    Have you found problems?
     
  16. He is referring to Erik Scott, the CCW holder who was shot and killed at the Costco in Summerlin when he disobeyed Metro's orders and pointed his weapon at them as he exited the store. He was shot dead.

    Turns out he was on heavy doses of misused medications which may have altered his sense of reality. The Metro cops were exonerated.
     
  17. kensteele

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    Yeah something like that. My point was costco called the cops on him.
     
  18. jpa

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    *snort* not this crap again....
     
  19. Warp

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    As you probably know there was more than this to the story.