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Virginia Fire Death

Discussion in 'Firefighter/EMS Talk' started by obxemt, May 31, 2007.

  1. obxemt

    obxemt Chaplain of CT

  2. matsig

    matsig Millennium Member

    Dec 7, 1999
    geneva, Fl
    His fire crews were irresponible. They KNEW there was patient in the structure and they knew her location.
    Something is wrong with their search techniques and fire ground tactics.

  3. obxemt

    obxemt Chaplain of CT

    Irresponsible because they didn't find her on the primary search? I have some difficulty with that. The Chief should be keeping his trap shut.
  4. FireMarshal

    FireMarshal NRA Member

    Jun 2, 2007
    SW USA
    His comments can't be doing much for the morale or to help his firefighter's grief. Sounds like the chief has forgot what it's like to find a victim.
  5. hotpig

    hotpig IAFF Local 4766 CLM

    Sounds like a Chief that needs to be standing in the unemployment line tomorrow.
  6. bigredd692


    Apr 11, 2007
    southern illinois
    Sounds like he was an admin type and probably never fought fire. Your right. He should be keeping his trap shut and trying to find out what went wrong and how it can be fixed.
  7. hotpig

    hotpig IAFF Local 4766 CLM

    It sounds to me that he is looking for a scape goat to push the blame on. If you can not take the heat in the Chiefs seat get out.
  8. matsig

    matsig Millennium Member

    Dec 7, 1999
    geneva, Fl
    The buck starts and stops and the Fire Chief's Office on this one.
    I don't know this Department but after reading the article several times, something is wrong in the command structure, fire ground tactics and search procedure in use.
  9. Tvov


    Sep 30, 2000
    "Thermal imaging camera" is mentioned multiple times in the article. I hope they didn't just "sweep" rooms with it, without physically searching the rooms.

    Now, having said that, I've been to plenty of drills where the "victim" (played by another fireman) is missed by search teams, when they know someone is there.

    This was a terrible tragedy, and I hope it doesn't devolve into lawsuits.