Been doin' this about 100 years...or so it feels. I've carried every gun, every caliber, every load you can think of. Why don't I carry one of my .45's>? Because I just shoot my old, vintage Glock 17 better. And placement & hits ARE what counts! Bullets and their design and construction ARE, also important. I still think the Gold Dot in 9mm defines the caliber. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CQ7ThU3Epk&feature=fvwrel"]Hog's Head Ballistics - Speer Gold Dot 124gr +P 9mm - YouTube[/ame] Wanna kill these ads? We can help!