Forgive me if you've seen this before but it is a great video displaying the effectiveness of the speer 135g +p GDHP in .38 special. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k890Rio2oBY"]Speer Gold Dot .38 Special +P 135 gr Ammo Test - YouTube[/ame] I know Mas endorses this round for .38 special snubbies and based on this test, I can see why. That expansion would ruin your whole day! I now carry this in my 642. Wanna kill these ads? We can help!