close

Privacy guaranteed - Your email is not shared with anyone.

Vegetarian Hunter?

Discussion in 'Hunting, Fishing & Camping' started by jdavionic, Oct 31, 2010.


  1. jdavionic

    jdavionic
    Expand Collapse
    NRA Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2008
    14,713
    2,393
    My oldest daughter (16) has expressed an interest in going deer hunting with me this season. That's quite a conflict of interest for her. She's a vegetarian! Her rational is that she believes animals are mistreated before they are killed. But for hunting, she believes it is much more humane in that the animals are free and that hunters serve a purpose that is in the best interest of the animals. She would much rather they die via a good hunter than starve or hit by a car.

    First off, I've never heard of a vegetarian that wanted to go hunting. While I appreciate her views, I was always taught that you eat what you kill. So I've got some mixed emotions about letting her go hunting.

    Anyone encounter this one before or have an opinion on this?

    Edit: She is a good a shot.
     

    Wanna kill these ads? We can help!
    #1 jdavionic, Oct 31, 2010
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2010
  2. M1A Shooter

    M1A Shooter
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2009
    3,605
    1
    Location:
    Clarksville, TN
    she may also just want to go to spend time with dad.

    when i go hunting, its more about going with my family members and having a good day in the woods.
     

  3. jdavionic

    jdavionic
    Expand Collapse
    NRA Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2008
    14,713
    2,393
    Since I haven't picked out days to go yet, I haven't had to decide. I did ask her if she'd eat the meat, and her answer was no.

    So I'm torn...quality time with my daughter versus instilling the principal of you only kill what you will eat.
     
  4. DWARREN123

    DWARREN123
    Expand Collapse
    Grumpy Old Guy

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2008
    7,046
    1,114
    Location:
    CLARKSVILLE TN
    Going hunting does not mean getting anything, just looking, listening and some talk.
     
  5. AA#5

    AA#5
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2008
    5,099
    0
    Some people choose vegetarianism for health reasons rather than compassion for animals. Maybe that applies to her.

    Or, maybe she wants to see for herself if hunted animals suffer when they're shot (which they indeed. do).
     
  6. jdavionic

    jdavionic
    Expand Collapse
    NRA Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2008
    14,713
    2,393
    That's more likely the result when I go :supergrin:
     
  7. n0vember

    n0vember
    Expand Collapse
    germanolicious

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2008
    198
    0
    Location:
    Germany.

    I do..
    In that case, I would not let my daughter kill an animal, just for the fun of it.

    What is her reason behind wanting to take an animal's life?
     
  8. Dalton Wayne

    Dalton Wayne
    Expand Collapse
    Epic mustache
    Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 1999
    12,633
    7
    Location:
    Central Florida
    If you will eat it no harm no foul
     
  9. alwaysshootin

    alwaysshootin
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2005
    3,749
    1
    Don't miss an opportunity to hunt with one of your children. If she gets fortunate, donate the harvest to a food bank. ++ in my book! Have fun!:cool:
     
  10. jdavionic

    jdavionic
    Expand Collapse
    NRA Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2008
    14,713
    2,393
    She believes hunting is a more humane management of animals versus letting them starve or hit by cars, etc.

    Why does she want to hunt? She loves camping, fishing (she always lets them go), hiking, etc. She just loves the outdoors. She thinks hunting would be interesting to try.

    Knowing her, I think she'd be a bit shocked at making a kill. As you can tell from this forum, a lot of folks are surprised when they see an animal killed by a hunter.

    With respect to eating it, I know the meat would not go to waste. I love deer meat. Venison chili :supergrin:
     
  11. bowtie454

    bowtie454
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2009
    703
    21
    I'm as conflicted as you. I know two guys who hunt big game but refuse to eat it. The first guy eats meat but doesn't like wild game. He donates his share to the local Raptor Society. We'll call him Bob. The second one is a vegetarian and is just in it for the kill. We'll call him "The *******". I think Bob goes hunting because he enjoys the company, getting away from it all with buddies, etc. The fact that he donates his share of the meat to a wildlife organization makes me not think too lowly of him, but I still disagree with hunting and not eating what you kill. As for The *******, I don't think he should be hunting. I have no respect for bloodlust. You're daughter seems to have a pretty good grip on things. Although I firmly believe in eating what you kill, you're daughter has the best interest of the wildlife in mind. That is very commendable. I'd have to vote for taking her. She's going for the right reasons, respects wildlife, and although I don't have kids, I would think that hunting would be a great activity to share with them.
     
  12. n0vember

    n0vember
    Expand Collapse
    germanolicious

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2008
    198
    0
    Location:
    Germany.
    What's the point of fishing when you let them go anyway? Sorry, but I have no sympathy at all for someone putting animals through the process of fishing just for the fun of it..


    Interesting to try.. now that is a good reason to take a life. :shocked:

    Then you should kill the animal..

    How does your daughter's "humane management of animals" work exactly, what is her plan, her concept? If she really was into wildlife management she'd give that a thought.. or two.
     
  13. jdavionic

    jdavionic
    Expand Collapse
    NRA Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2008
    14,713
    2,393
    I catch & release quite a bit. I love fly fishing. The "fun of it" is that it is quite challenging. If I catch a really large trout, I'll keep it...preferably eat right near where I'm at. I don't see the issue with those that catch & release.

    I need to think about this some more too & possibly press the issue. Unlike the sport of fishing and releasing a catch, you don't "release" the deer after shooting.

    I've previously provided her rational, but I'll expand on it a bit. We've been to areas where deer over population has been an issue. So she saw some deer not doing well and I explained why. And in our trips from the South to Erie, PA, we will see many dead deer on the side of the road. Again, we discuss the issues.

    Not sure she has sound reasoning here, that's part of my concern. However I will say that I think she's more thoughtful about the whole vegetarian issue than many older vegetarians that I know.
     
  14. GeorgiaRedfish

    GeorgiaRedfish
    Expand Collapse
    Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2010
    3,819
    0
    Location:
    Right behind you...
    I catch and release fish all the time, only for sharks they fight strong and are magnificent creatures to see up close. I don't seems them hurting when I let them go, they swim fast and I could careless.... I don't go after shark when I catch them I'm fishing for Redfish, trout, and Whitening when I catch them. I do agree with above, if she doesn't want to eat it she shouldn't kill it.
     
  15. thejellster05

    thejellster05
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2007
    671
    0
    Location:
    Kansas
    I say take her since it will be an awesome memory. If you get one, you'll eat it so it's not like it's going to lay on the ground for the coyotes.
     
  16. vafish

    vafish
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2003
    16,541
    29
    Location:
    Commonwealth of Virginia
    As long as someone eats the meat and it doesn't go to waste I see no problem with her shooting deer.

    I know plenty of people who love hunting, shoot deer and donate the meet to homeless shelters.

    Take your kid hunting we need all the hunters we can get.
     
    #16 vafish, Nov 2, 2010
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2010
  17. Gun Shark

    Gun Shark
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2005
    6,308
    764
    Location:
    Florida
    Every time I go wild boar hunting I shoot 2 more then I would have and donate the meat to a local church. OP: Maybe you could do that.
     
    #17 Gun Shark, Nov 2, 2010
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2010
  18. kirgi08

    kirgi08
    Expand Collapse
    Southern Rogue.
    Silver Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2007
    34,020
    3,203
    Location:
    Acme proving grounds.
    A company I usta work for owner was an avid hunter,he was also a vegetarian.He would donate the deer,if he got one, ta a local food bank.'08.
     
  19. bustedknee

    bustedknee
    Expand Collapse
    Curmudgeon

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2001
    3,638
    298
    Location:
    Wythe County, VA
    One of the most wonderful things you can do is teach your kid to hunt. Both of you will learn many things about yourselves and each other.

    Start her out small. Maybe a 22 rifle. Let her shoot carrots and potatoes.

    Move up, after she gains confidence, to cabbages and corn.

    After she masters the shotgun or high-powered rifle go after watermelons and pumpkins.

    Maybe someday the two of you can go on safari for Oak trees or Barrel cactus.
     
    #19 bustedknee, Nov 2, 2010
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2010
  20. Gun Shark

    Gun Shark
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2005
    6,308
    764
    Location:
    Florida
    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: You owe me a new keyboard.