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Value of LCT in current condition..

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by Fwdftw, Oct 23, 2011.

  1. Fwdftw

    Fwdftw

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    minus 45acp dies id keep them as im considering upgrading to a 550 :wavey:

    press has maybe.. 1500 rds reloaded on it in excellent condition
     
  2. WiskyT

    WiskyT Malcontent

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    If you can afford it, I would hang on to it. It's awful nice to just swivel your chair 90* to change calibers.
     


  3. Tpro

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    You are not upgrading going to a 550. Keep the LCT. Or get a 650. But skip the 550. Waste opf time and money.

    Why are you giving up on the LCT? You just started with it didn't you?
     
  4. Fwdftw

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    I'm not giving up on it ..just wanting to go faster I don't plan on a casefeeder so that's why I was thinking 550
     
  5. Tpro

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    In a year (or less) you will want a 650. May as well get it now.

    Why the aversion to a casefeeder? Why not do as few functions as possible?

    That is why I picked the LnL AP (among other reasons). I will eventually have a case and bullet feeder.
     
  6. Colorado4Wheel

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    Considering it's the most popular press around and you have never owned one those are pretty bold statements.
     
  7. XDRoX

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    :rofl:

    Is this suppose to be a joke?

    Fwdftw, I have both on my bench right now and the 550b is an upgrade from the LCT. To say it's not is just silly. It can produce at least twice as many rounds an hour.
     
  8. 10mmbob

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    Bold statement indeed! I've owned my rockchucker for 30 yrs.I've owned my 550 for 20yrs. Never even thought of getting rid of the RCBS. Never wanted to upgrade to a 650, the 550 does everything I wanted. Granted I don't shoot competition, but If I wanted to or had to shoot 1000 rds. a month, my 550 is more than capable of keeping up. the caliber conv. are cheaper and simpler. The LCT will serve you well, in addition to a 550.
     
  9. Colorado4Wheel

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    I didn't notice that he said the 550 wasn't a upgrade from the LCT. Thats just freaking crazy. Shows he doesn't know the LCT and 550 very well at all.
     
  10. Tpro

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    Is it all about rounds per hour? What about features? You manually index a 550. 4 Stations (get that with the LCT). No case feeder on either.

    If he wants more output why waste time on a 550? I KNEW all the guys who bought the 550 would chime in.

    Steve you must be kidding right? You think he should buy the 550 over the 650? Rediculous. If he took the money he spent on the LCT, and added it to the 550, he would have the same amount if he bought the 650 WITH the casefeeder.

    This happens WAY too often. Guys come here and get bull****ted on what to buy, and less than 6 MONTHS they are spending money AGAIN.

    OP, buy what you want. IDGAS what you buy. If you like buying things several times over to get what you want, then get the 550. I have NO DOUBT that in 1 year (or less) you will want to upgrade AGAIN (if you are honest about it). You have already bought the wrong tool once. Why would you do it again?

    Just so I am clear: you may load more rounds per hour with the 550 over the LCT (damn sure you will) but you will do more work. There is NO REASON to buy the 550.

    That is exactly why I didn't buy one. Over priced. Under featured. you can spend the same (or a little more) and get better. I didn't need to get screwed by buying a 550 to not recommend it.

    I stand by my original post.
     
  11. WiskyT

    WiskyT Malcontent

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    I'm not in the market for a new press, but if I was, the 550 would be one of my last choices. The SDB does everything the 550 does with less effort. Yeah I know, we all need to load 300 H&H on a progressive for our three gun matches and you can't do that on a SDB, seriously, for the price and what a progressive is used for 99% of the time, the SDB if you can afford it, or the Pro1000 if you are short on funds and have some apptitude, are the way to go.
     
  12. I've never really understood the 550 upgrade purchase from a SS or something like a LCT. If you want to make more ammo more efficiently you really need a progressive IMO. And if you are going to pay the premium to go Dillon then just save a few extra bucks for the 650.
     
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2011
  13. Colorado4Wheel

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    It's all about auto indexing to you. You just can't get past it.

    He should keep the LCT and buy a 550 if that is what he wants. It's about what he wants. BUT, I WOULD KEEP THE LCT. I made a huge mistake selling my first LCT when I bought my 550. KEEP the LCT is my advice.

    So not true. One pull of the handle vs 4 pulls of the handle. It's not even close to the same.

    You didn't buy one because your sold on auto indexing only. Your a new reloader, never really tried a bunch of stuff, and your dogmatically sticking to the thing that convinced you to buy the LnL because you were to "thrifty" to buy a 650. Just look at all the people who chimed in who have owned a 550 for 20 years and say "it's a great press, it's as much of a press as most people need".

    Your just not experienced enough to really know. 550 is a marvel of simplicity and speed. It's super easy to load 100 rds in 10 mins and I was able to crank out 100 rds in 8 mins when I was motivated. 550 is not perfect. It's not for everyone. But it's not what your trying to say it is.
     
  14. dr_hefley

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    Wish I'd known you might be parting with your LCT. I just bought one last week from Kempf. No more than I shoot the LCT should suit me fine for years to come.
     
  15. Tpro

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    I've already posted why I didn't buy a Dillon of any size. What do you know about my experience? You know nothing of it.

    Most guys buy the 550 and have NOTHING to compare that to. I used the LnL AP and the 650 BEFORE I bought. I checked with someone who I knew I could trust. Not some keyboard jockey repeating what he was told.

    The OP can do what he wants. He posted a question on a forum and I gave my opinion. As usual, the argument lover you are, just couldn't respect some one's opinion that differs from yours.

    The LCT is good for what it is. If the OP needs more, why screw with the 550? Oh yead, because Steve says it's great. Obviously he should have started with something different. How many times has/will this come up? And the guys spend more than they would had they bought what they needed in the first place.

    FWIW, you have no idea of my finances. It's stupid of you to publically call me "thrifty" when you don't have a clue as to who I am, or how much money I have to invest in tools. I didn't buy the LnL AP to be "thrifty". Once again, you are shooting off at the mouth without having a clue.

    Once again to the OP...sell the LCT, buy a 650. Get the case feeder. Or better yet, think outside the bun and buy the LnL AP. That would piss off everyone.

    Once again, Steve has turned this into a red vs. blue thread. See above.
     
  16. Colorado4Wheel

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    Your a new loader by your own admission. You have not owned a 550/650 or LCT to my knowledge. Going and pulling the handle on the machine is not the same as owning one. I mention your getting the LnL over the 650 because I thought I remember you saying the Dillon's are just to over priced for you. Some of the thriftiest people I know have plenty of money. Thrift and having money are are often inversely correlated. Money is almost always a issue when people debate buying these things. 550 is cheaper, it works pretty darn good, it's plenty fast as well. Your the one who jumped on him for choosing a press you don't find worthy. Your the first to mention the LnL as well.

    I'm out.
     
  17. shotgunred

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    I have owned all three and still own two of them. For 90% or more of reloaders the 550 is all you will ever need. I for one wish I hadn't sold my 550.
    Yes the 650 is faster. But when you are running at almost full speed you can still keep track of everything on the 550. Not true (at least for me ) on the 650. Not to mention that the 550 was capable of making more ammo than I needed on it already. The last year I owned one I made a little more than 16K pistol bullets and 4K 223.
     
  18. Tpro

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    I mention your getting the LnL over the 650 because I thought I remember you saying the Dillon's are just to over priced for you.

    I never said any such thing.


    You have not owned a 550/650 or LCT to my knowledge.

    Once again, you have no idea what I do all day, or who I deal with. Nor am I required to tell you.


    Thrift and having money are are often inversely correlated.

    Absolutely. The OP is doing exactly this. And I spend much of my week dealing with crap just like this. Fixing someone's error of an incorrect purchase, wrong application etc. They just keep pissing away money. Exactly my point here.

    Money is almost always a issue when people debate buying these things. 550 is cheaper, it works pretty darn good, it's plenty fast as well.

    If economy is all that counts, why not the SDB. Does he reload rifle? If not the SDB would work. But no one is saying that.

    Your the one who jumped on him for choosing a press you don't find worthy.

    You make so many assumptions it's stupid. I didn't say the LCT wasn't a worthy press. In the last 3 months I have sold 4 LCT's (I actually sent them to Kempf's) rather than sell them one of the LnL AP's I have on the shelf, because they just didn't need it. Once again, you are talking out of your hat. I didn't jump on him. I questioned him because IIRC he hasn't had the press for more than 6 months (if that). Now he wants to sell it to recoup some of his money. I agree. Sell it. He can get another one later. I have seen this scenario so many times I can't count it. As I posted before, I sold an LnL AP to a guy who followed all the online gurus and bought the 550. He sent the 550 back. His LnL AP seats primers.


    Your a new loader by your own admission.

    So what? Again, you have no idea what I do all day, what I get paid for. What you don't like is someone who you think should lick your boots because you are the reloading gawd and I won't do it. Your opinions are just that. Your experience means nothing to me. And when I have tried to get some "knowledge of your experience", you don't have the time to type out a reply. But you have time to post 40 times a day. In reality you didn't have an answer.


    Your the first to mention the LnL as well.

    Wrong again. YOU did. You would argue with a sign post if it would talk back. I almost NEVER EVER tell anyone to look at the LnL AP on GT. I sell enough a month I don't need to worry about it. YOU brought it up first.

    I'm out.

    I hope so. I'm supposed to be on your "list", but you just love to start crap. This proves it.
     
  19. F106 Fan

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    The LCT press, by itself, sells for about $85 while the full kit sells for a little less than $200. Used, probably half of those numbers.

    OTOH, you might do a little better; I didn't see any used LCTs on eBay. Overpriced new ones abound!

    Keeping the dies may be interesting but I personally prefer the Dillon dies. I have many sets of RCBS dies but lately I have just been using the Dillon's. I like the features of the decapping and bullet seating dies.

    I can also make a good case for the Redding Competition Seating Die and the Lee sizing die. I had thought that not having the radius on the open end of the sizing die like the Dillon might be a problem. So far, so good. As to the seating die, I like the features of the Dillon but having a micrometer adjustment is a pretty nice feature. I use the Redding competition dies for reloading my Savage F-Class 6.5x284 Norma. Magnificent dies!

    The 550 vs 650 debate will go on forever. It really is a price versus performance issue. If I didn't have 550s, I would be looking at 650s. But when I had the chance, I bought the 1050 for 45 ACP. I WILL be buying another 1050 for 9mm.

    Or, maybe there are side issues. I have a grandson who is becoming quite a good shooter. Maybe he will inherit all my stuff and he might as well have the best there is. Of course, I get to use it first!

    Richard