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Utah: Employee fires shots at stolen Home Depot vehicle, police say

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by Wasatch, May 9, 2011.


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  1. Wasatch

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    http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=15469673

    The gist:

    Home Depot employees used GPS to track down a company-owned stolen vehicle. The employees then confronted the suspected thief, who hurriedly backed the vehicle out, hitting another car. One of the employees tried to stop the vehicle by...you guessed it...shooting out the tires. What surprised me was that the employee actually hit at least one of the tires, because the thief was later apprehended while trying to change out a shot-out tire.

    The foolhardy employee was cited for unlawful discharge of a firearm.

    And hopefully all the employees involved in this incident will consider calling the police the next time they locate one of the company's stolen vehicles.
     

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    The employee's action is just plain stupid. The stolen item did not even belong to him and he put himself at risk. Not worth it!!
     

  3. mrsurfboard

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    This type of "taking the law into your own hands" behavior is why many are opposed to CCW. CCW is for immediate protection of yourself and others, not to hunt down and discharge your weapon in a parking lot at a moving vehicle.
     
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    Not just himself, others as well. The vehicle could have lost control and killed an innocent bystander. Stray gun fire could have done the same thing.
     
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  5. Warp

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    Those who cite this kind of behavior as an excuse to be against lawful carry are using it as just that...an excuse. This kind of thing virtually never happens. thankfully somehow, some way, most people know better. Most.
     
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    The article doesn't say whether when the employees approached the thief/driver, the employees were in their Home Depot uniforms or not.

    Well, the employees' hearts were in the right place.
     
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    No it wasn't. It was reckless and dangerous. He tried to play cop without any training or experience. It's just lucky no one was hurt or killed.
     
  8. Warp

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    You know his training history? What is it?

    How about experience? What is it?

    Come to think of it...who is the employee being discussed? I assume you have a pretty good source beside the article linked in the OP. It doesn't even seem to specify the gender of the employee. Can I see the other source(s) please? T
     
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    And look at how many people got their feelings hurt.

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  10. mrsurfboard

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    Let's not be foolish here. If you want to defend this yahoo, that's fine. As a LEO, this type of person is dangerous.
     
  11. Warp

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    I'm not defending anything. You have made statements, I am simply trying to find out whether you are making this all up as you go or actually have a source.

    It seems to be the former. If you do have a source for any of it I'd very much appreciate a link, though.
     
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    Anyone with any sort of LE training or experience knows you don't shoot at a fleeing MV. The collateral damage from an out of control vehicle outweighs any justification.
     
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    I've seen a video of a SWAT team member shooting the driver of a fleeing vehicle. This alone proves your statement inaccurate.

    However, your statement does not even come close to supporting your statements.

    The way I see it you don't know the training or experience of the employee, or even who the employee is. How do you even know he is a he? But you are happy to make absolute proclamations.


    But that's enough of that. Back to your regularly scheduled thread.
     
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    Ahh, you've seen videos. Well then, you are indeed an expert. I'll yield to your expert opinion then. Maybe you can teach my departments next Use of Force Class :rofl:
     
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    Maybe he trained with the Chicago PD. :whistling:
     
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    That's not what 'his heart was in the right place' means. It means that he thought he was doing the right thing, regardless of what actually is the right thing.

    It was clearly a bonehead move - which is pretty much what warp said.
     
  18. Warp

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    Correct.

    In my first reply I stated that, fortunately, most people know better. This statement is based on the fact that, as far as we know (and I'm pretty sure the media would report on it) it almost never happens.

    But hey...nobody was hurt and the thief was caught/arrested anyway.

    Plus the employee was cited for his actions.
     
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    So these rocket scientists know the vehicles location because it has a GPS locator on it. rather than calling the police and reporting the vehicle stolen and telling the police where it is at. they decide to go retrieve it themselves.

    My guess is that some folks are going to be getting some pink slips here soon.

    Here is a "What would you do scenario" what if you were a CCW'er that happened to see this incident. some guys surrounding another vehicle, the person in the vehicle attempts to get away and one of the guys ( who could be mistaken for attackers) pulls a gun and starts shooting at the vehicle.
     
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    Were the guys on foot in any kind of uniform or wearing anything that potentially affiliated them with any LEA or business?

    How about the guy driving?

    Note that the "other vehicle" is a Home Depot vehicle/truck, which I assume is clearly labeled as such.

    Do the guys on foot say anything? I assume that if the fact you are armed is relevant you are close enough to hear whatever is being shouted.

    Certainly there is a significant potential for the guys on foot to be viewed as assailants. Just one of the reasons the employee's actions were dumb.

    I'd probably go "holy **** what the ****!?!?" and take cover, possibly while gripping my pistol, and watching...followed shortly by getting on the phone.
     
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