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Unprofessional cop with open carry activist

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by frizz, Oct 7, 2012.

  1. I fully support gun rights but if the guys had the gun in a case they probably would have not been messed with. The cop made valid points and if he was a jerk he could have come with a number of cops and proned them out. I agree with what Russ said above. I think these guys may have been trying to make a point but if it would have gone to court I think the cop would win. I don't think he was being unreasonable by wanting to check them out after the Colorado lunatic shooting.
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2012
  2. Beware Owner

    Beware Owner NOT a victim.

    Oct 16, 2007
    He tried to win them over while doing his job. These kids should respect that. He even offered to show them HIS rifle, which is even cooler. Come on, now.

  3. Roering

    Roering Sorting nuts

    Feb 14, 2008
    Costa Mesa
    There should be a law against D-bags being able to open carry.

    This should be a 3 min. stop at most.

    Check ID/examine weapon(s)/say goodbye.
  4. Gombey


    Oct 10, 2011
    Negative! I am saying they lost the right because of how they exercised the right.

    Had they just carries their pistols in accordance w/the law sans cameras and negative attitudes they would still have that right.

    As I have said a few times here, prior to getting my citizenship the only way I could carry my firearm was via open carry. Had I pulled the mess that these "activist" pull I may have ended up losing that and a bunch of other rights. I may have even lost the privilege to get into LE.

    I'm not anti open carry. I am anti stupidity, and this mess is stupidity.
  5. jeepinbandit

    jeepinbandit Sgt. USMC

    Dec 27, 2007
    NAS Fort Worth JRB
    However even when they were carrying cameras they were still within the confines of the law and were still accosted. Yeah the attitude could have been fixed but being a dick isn't against the law.
  6. Gombey


    Oct 10, 2011
    I wouldn't say accosted, and I agree being a dick isn't against the law. I'm grateful for that, if it where I'd be in some serious trouble!

    That said, if someone calls the police and says there is a man with a gun walking around the police have to check it out. The individuals with the camera are looking for a confrontation with LE. The officer is just doing his job.

    Just for arguments sake, this guy has a plan to kill his co-workers, the department gets calls about a MWAG and just do a cursory check like many are advocating. Don't dig any deeper, don't try to talk to the guy. He makes it to his destination and kills a bunch of people. Now what? What will the response be?

    Just let the officers do their jobs. They have to answer calls. This is not the way to change laws in a positive way.

    Honey is needed, not vinegar.
  7. Gombey


    Oct 10, 2011
    See the above, this is the kind of change this type of activism creates!

    Roering, I was just using your post as an example. No offense intended and I understand the spirit of your post.
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2012
  8. jbglock


    Aug 18, 2012
    I agree with all of your post. The attitude that someone is being harassed just because they have to speak to an officer amazes me.

    I stand by my point that if I was an anti 2a activist this is just the type of thing I would do to make 2a supporters look bad.
  9. Roering

    Roering Sorting nuts

    Feb 14, 2008
    Costa Mesa
    No worries. I get what you're saying.
  10. Goldendog Redux

    Goldendog Redux Shut your mouth

    Aug 22, 2003
  11. Well written!
  12. rockapede


    Sep 3, 2009
    accostedpast participle, past tense of ac·cost (Verb)

    • Approach and address (someone) boldly or aggressively.
    • Approach (someone) with hostility or harmful intent.
    I do not think that word means what you think it does.
  13. razdog76

    razdog76 Heavy Mettle

    Sep 26, 2007
    With the number of staged OC confrontations in the last year, it makes me wonder how long until they round a corner and surprise the wrong citizen(s), or they get rolled by some thugs, and get killed.

    Remember the two idiots running around on the street corner with a replica RPG.

    Really, what's the difference between the two. :dunno:
  14. steveksux

    steveksux Massive Member

    Jul 12, 2007
    At least they'll have their own deaths on camera... :rofl:

    These idiots keep this crap up and I'm going to lose my right to wander around in a sheet carrying a fake RPG.... :steamed:

  15. AZson


    Oct 5, 2005

    I do think this cop was pretty professional but I also think there is nothing in the Constitution that the kids have to be polite either. You forget it goes both ways.
  16. jbglock


    Aug 18, 2012
    I think you missed the point. At least from an leo's point of view.
  17. razdog76

    razdog76 Heavy Mettle

    Sep 26, 2007
    Unfortunately, many of us are reminded daily. Where wprebeck works, he is probably reminded hourly.
  18. Kelo6


    May 20, 2008
    OC Idiot/Street Lawyer: "Under ORS it's illegal for me to possess it and handle it..."

    Officer: "No it's not."

    Gentlemen, school is in session. :supergrin:

    I'll admit, I looked further at his videos (no idea why, maybe because I'm curious as to what my fellow Oregonians are up to), but his interaction with Bend PD was even better.

    You thought the OP's video was professional, Bend PD's performances was spectacular, and the officer even suggested that he consider "the other ramifications of [his] actions." Really well done.
  19. skippz


    May 29, 2006
    East Kentucky
    Really, I haven't been on YouTube tons but that's at the top of my "dumbest things to do" list... Those kids are displaying total disrespect for the slain victims and they're families, not to mention their community... and they're doing nothing for the 2nd amendment.
    I mean what's the copper supposed to do, just ignore everyone he sees strolling down the street with a rifle (be it an AR or a muzzleloader).
    This is ricockulous.
  20. Hack

    Hack Crazy CO Gold Member

    I hear you. Carrying openly in some places has a price to pay. The price is being looked at, especially when one is going about with cameras and looking for confrontations. The larger overall price is how it may ultimately affect a people group for the long term.

    Thankfully in Kansas we have the right to conceal carry on a permit, and the right to open carry in public. Even cities where they would rather not have open carry happen will have to bend to the state laws concerning that, or face court, and extra money spent that they would not have to spend. I conceal carry, and I have been told by a LEO working for LVN that we can open carry no problem in LVN.