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Discussion in 'Reloading' started by Ajax27, Nov 7, 2011.

  1. Ajax27


    Aug 31, 2011
    So I've just started reloading recently, I've got a small setup with a lee hand press and so far I've been being careful and methodical and everything has been going well. I started out using some Hercules Bullseye from around the 70's and other than being a bit dirty, the only problem I've had with it is that it meters HORRIBLY out of my Lee Perfect Powder Measure. Does anyone else have any experience with this issue? Charges vary up to .1-.4 gr. (Yes the loads that I have fired I did individually weigh lol)

    The only caliber I'm loading right now is 45 ACP and I'm done messing around with the old powder, the question that I really have is how well does Unique meter? I'm going to go to my LGS and pick up a new pound of power tomorrow and I'm wondering whether to go for some Unique or to just get a new jug of Bullseye, with basically my only concern being which one meters the most easily (through my semi low quality power measure and all).

    Any comments or suggestions welcome, and sorry if the post is a bit wordy....
  2. Lou Garou

    Lou Garou In my den

    Oct 25, 2011
    Bullseye is finer then Unique and seems to meter better, in my experience. I never have the problems some people report with Unique, though. It meters fine for me.

  3. Ajax27


    Aug 31, 2011
    Okay cool, I'm thinking I might go with Unique as long as I can get it to meter okay. I might start loading 40 S&W before too long and Unique seems like it would be a suitable powder for both calibers, either that or Power Pistol.
  4. WiskyT

    WiskyT Malcontent

    Jun 12, 2002
    North Carolina
    I've never heard of Bullseye metering badly. Winchester 231/HP38 are similar to BE and are a ball powder that should meter as well as any powder could.
  5. Ajax27


    Aug 31, 2011
    Must just be because of the age, the powder has been sitting in its cardboard tube in my dad's closet since the 70's when he used to use it to load 38 wadcutters...
  6. Unique is not perfect for metering, being shaped in miniature cow patties.


    Dec 20, 2002
    If you are having trouble with Bullseye, Unique is not going to be an improvement.

    There are so many great powders out there that meter so much better. W231 or HP-38 (same powder, different labels) would be my first choice for .45 acp and metered charges.
  8. Steve Koski

    Steve Koski Got Insurance? Millennium Member

    Jan 31, 1999
    That's what I was gonna say.

    However, Unique meters "well enough" and it's a kick ass powder for .40 S&W.
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2011
  9. Lou Garou

    Lou Garou In my den

    Oct 25, 2011
    I like Unique in 9mm for NATO level 124s.
  10. Zombie Steve

    Zombie Steve Decap Pin Killa

    May 31, 2007
    Old Colorado City
    I use a bunch of Unique too. It's a great powder, but metering isn't one of it's strengths.

    If you're planning on full power .45 auto, Unique will burn relatively clean. Trying to load it down / make light target loads with it will result in an incomplete burn and it will be really dirty. That's true of most medium - slow burn rate powders.

    Some better metering alternates for .45 auto on the light end would be 231 and WST. Another for full power would be WSF.
  11. fredj338


    Dec 22, 2004
    I totaly agree, maybe a better powder measure? If you want Unque tpye performance w/ better metering, look to WSF. They are almost identical in several calibers I have tried it in. It is my go to powder for 40 & will be in 9mm too.
  12. tjpet


    May 14, 2001
    Utah-Idaho border

    I was just about to suggest this but Fred beat me to it! WSF will handle both soft and hot loads in a variety of calibers plus it meters extremely well.
  13. I use Bullseye and Unique with the Lee's Auto Disk Powder Measure, Pro 1000, Loadmaster, and the Classic Turret. Some of my Bullseye is "old" Hercules in the cardboard container.

    I always clean my powder measure with soapy water, rinse and dry. I always take out and rubber "wiper" and clean it thoroughly.

    I have also used Bullseye for hand loading with the Perfect Powder Measure.
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2011
  14. Uncle Don

    Uncle Don Wood butcher

    Jan 24, 2004
    I think you are getting good advise and I pesonally really like Unique. If I'm getting a difference in metering, I can't tell it through shooting them.

    However, I'd pass on Bullseye as a newer reloader. It's better if you can use a powder that will tell you immediately if you happen to make a double charge. Bullseye is very fast burning and spooks me a little because it doesn't have to take much of an error to make a big difference in pressure.
  15. This thread is making me want to go and buy another 8lb jug of Unique.
  16. Lockback

    Lockback Polymerlicious!

    Nov 23, 2009
    Heard that. Not a strength of Unique at all. Very coarse.
    However, if you're not pushing it to max levels, it's pretty good.
  17. Ajax27


    Aug 31, 2011
    Thanks for all the great advice y'all! Funny story though, I went to my LGS today and actually ended up getting a pound of Longshot instead of any of these. I ended up going with it because the guy at the store said they over ordered so I managed to pick the pound up for $15! While it may not be the perfect powder for 45 target loads, I figured (and found out just a little earlier today I was correct) that it would fix the metering issues I was having with the Hercules powder.

    I made up some rounds at 6.0, 6.2, and 6.4 grains (max being 6.8) with some 230 LRN bullets, so hopefully I'll get to test them out at the range soon!
  18. fredj338


    Dec 22, 2004
    I think you'l find LS a bit slow for optimal loads in the low pressure 45acp. I love it for 357sig & 10mm, even +P 9mm, but for anything but +P 45acp, it's going to flash & bang alot, maybe leave unburnt powder.
  19. Ajax27


    Aug 31, 2011
    Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm expecting, but hopefully it'll work alright, if not it'll at least be an interesting experiment :) Also, the next caliber I'm planning on starting loading is either .40 S&W or .44 Mag so I figure it'd aleast be useful to have some knowledge about LS and how it behaves and all
  20. PCJim

    PCJim Senior Member

    Aug 4, 2008
    Ajax, with that adventurous attitude (with a healthy dose of cautious respect), you'll make a good reloader. Try different powders, figure out different combinations for when your preferred powder for a particular use is not available. That's part of the fun of being a reloader.