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unique and. 45

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by uzimon, Apr 22, 2014.

  1. uzimon

    uzimon team ftp

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    loaded a few 230gr plated xtreme with 6.2
    accuracy was terrible compared to my 4756 loads and even longshot loads.
    Nowhere near poa.
    Should I back off a bit or try a lighter bullet?
    Would this work better for 9mm?
    gun was glock 21
    thanks
     
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  2. uzimon

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    It might be me. Gotta use my middle finger as my trigger finger was mangled. And i didnt try that many rounds
     
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  3. Beanie-Bean

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    I run 6.0 gr. of Unique over 230 gr. FMJ or plated, and accuracy is good here. That load is also shot through my .45ACP pistols, including a G21, without any problems.

    I've used this with WLP and CCI LPP primers, too.

    What is the COL you're using for your loads?
     
  4. uzimon

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    I just set my calipers on a 230 factory rd.and make them that length
     
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  5. Kentguy

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    Out of my G21 (Gen 3)
    I run 230g FMJ (Precision Delta) over 6.2g of Unique with OAL of 1.260"
    Velocity clocks in at 847.4 fps
    Tested from 15, 25 and 35 yards, accuracy was very good from both a seated gun rest position and a standing free hand position.
     
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  6. uzimon

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    maybe im a little hot. The plated are supposed to be loaded less than fmj but can be a little hotter than lead
     
  7. Colorado4Wheel

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    I was joking, But it's interesting that you really did not get the test the way you normally would test. I would not really put much stock in the accuracy testing you did.
     
  8. arkdweller22

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    It is a bit hot...
    I load the same bullet with 5.6 grains of Unique and it serves well as a plinking round. Not a tack driver, but satisfactory.



    Posted using Outdoor Hub Campfire
     
  9. newgene

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    I'm the same OAL with a PD bullet, but I only use 5.9 gr of Unique. Some may drift as high as 6.2, but the range is between 5.7 and 6.0 for most of the rounds. At least, that's what my scale reads. I test the scale with the calibration weight before each use, but the average of two loads is always different than weighing each load separately.
     
  10. leeward419

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    I use 6.2 with 230 LRN, shoots to point of aim at 20 yards, accuracy is great.
    Started with much lighter loads, accuracy and clean burning improved. I find that usually starts around 95% of max book loads.
     
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  11. uzimon

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    Yeah lead is usually really accurate.
    Im Stockpiling jacketed/loading for volume
     
  12. F106 Fan

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    The limitation on plated bullets is usually related to velocity. The manufacturers want to keep the velocity below 1200 fps (or some similar number). There is no possibility of loading a .45 ACP beyond those limits.

    I use 6.2 gr of Unique with a 230 gr PD FMJ at 1.250" to try to replicate hardball for my G36. The G36 doesn't like wimpy loads (or shooters). I don't find it to be a comfortable load to shoot in a smaller polymer gun.

    Richard
     
  13. fredj338

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    With a plated bullet, a bit warm IMO, with fmj, pretty much ball equiv. Sub 2" groups @ 25yds in several of my guns.
     
  14. F106 Fan

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    I haven't tried the load with a plated bullet but, since I bought a few thousand X-Treme's, I guess I'll have to work up something.

    It's really just the G36 extraction issue: I wouldn't even bother with such a stiff load were I loading for my 1911s or my P220. Those guns work fine with more modest loads. Even my G21SF works with the modest loads.

    Next time I load FMJ for the G36, I'm going to try just a little deeper taper crimp. It 'seems' as though the extracting case collides with the incoming case right at the leading edge and gets yanked off the extractor. It was all built with new Starline cases and the casemouth is pretty sharp.

    Hm... Still working on it...

    Richard
     
  15. Kentguy

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    newgene "...I test the scale with the calibration weight before each use, but the average of two loads is always different than weighing each load separately."

    That is a good practice to have. I have a RCBS 10-10 balance beam scale, it most always calibrates spot on but I always check it anyway.

    My LEE powder dispensers "usually" dispense correctly but they do (depending upon powder, humidity, other things you know...) drift from time to time.

    Keeps you on your toes anyway.
     
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  16. uzimon

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    Scored a pound of bullseye for $25:cool:
    5 grains with the 230 plated I should get well over a thousand loads right?
     
  17. fredj338

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    7000gr in a pound. Powder is the cheapest part of any handgun load, so don't get all worried about how many loads you get from a #. At the same cost/#, 5gr vs 6gr, your powder cost is 0.018c vs 0.02c each. For me, I buy powder I like to reload & shoot, economy isn't really a factor. Your primer is 3c+, your bullet is 8-16c per, so cutting cost on the bullet is where your savings comes.:dunno:
     
  18. uzimon

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    Wow! 1400 rounds from a pound:supergrin:
    And I dont know of any cheaper than $60/500 shipped
    http://www.XtremeBullets.com/45-230-RN-p/xc45-230rn-b0500.htm
     
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  19. fredj338

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