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Underwood 124gr +p+ gel test

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by Snapper2, Aug 17, 2012.

  1. Snapper2

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    Anyone check out the gel test on youtube yet? A little over 13" penetration and .726 expansion through denim. Seems like a good carry round out of a g26.:cool:
     

  2. Tiro Fijo

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcrsOyAa0gY"]9mm +P+ Underwood Gold Dot 124 gr Ammo Gel Test - YouTube[/ame]
     
  3. Adamz04

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    Yep, it's what I now have loaded in my 26. I guess it may do 1250 roughly out of my 26 so that puts it in the same ballpark as a standard 124gr+p gold dot out of a g19. Appears to have all the characteristics of a great carry load. I also ordered some of underwoods 147gr+p+ to possibly carry in the colder weather but I have yet to shoot any of it.
     
  4. spcwes

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    Very nice results for a very impressive round. Would carry that any day of the week year around!
     
  5. unit1069

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    Can anyone give me an idea about Underwood's shipping costs? And has anyone seen any signs of overpressure or case bulge in these hot loads?

    For the time being I'm pretty much caught up with premium self-defense JHP ammo in 9mm with my recent purchase of Remington 124-grain +P Bonded to go along with almost a dozen premium JHP loads for that caliber, but I'm very interested in the Underwood 125-grain .357sig Gold Dot. tnoutdoors video of the Underwood +P+ stressed the recoil so I've decided instead of maxing out 9mm I'll just pick up the .357sig pistol instead.

    It seems Underwood's published velocities are the real deal and Underwood 125-grain Gold Dot would be a nice addition to the stash of .357sig rounds I now have that span the high 1200s to mid/high 1300s. I'm sure if I didn't have a .357sig I'd be jumping on Underwood's 9mm.
     
  6. dkf

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    I got the notification when the video was uploaded and watched it right away.

    Performed very nicely. Far better than the 115gr version IMO.
     
  7. cowboy1964

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    What is the rationale for going from 124 to 147 just because of colder weather? I can understand going up in caliber (eg. 9mm to .45) because of the added chance of clogging, but 124 to 147 I don't see. 147's tend to penetrate a bit more regardless. If they clog they are probably just going to penetrate even more.
     
  8. Snapper2

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    I have a g19 factory barrel in my g26. Accuracy is very consistent with this ammo. I might buy some of the 147gr +p+ also but I'm going to wait to see how it does in gel at that velocity. I'm betting the petals will fold.
     
  9. Tiro Fijo

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    Another very important factor not mentioned is that this particular Underwood load is, at least in my guns, extremely accurate.
     
  10. cowboy1964

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    Here we go again.

    Give us some examples, show us some targets.
     
  11. cowboy1964

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    I have to say this is the first Underwood Gold Dot ammo that I'm intrigued by. I may try a box or two. My main concern will be recoil and muzzle flash, especially from smaller guns like the PM9.
     
    Last edited: Aug 17, 2012
  12. unit1069

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    I just reviewed the email I received from Speer some months ago regarding the 125-grain six petal .357sig Gold Dot bullet design and according to Speer the performance window is given as reliable at 1200-1437 fps. It looks like Underwood is pushing the envelope to Speer's specs, and according to GT members like Glolt and Canyon Man the Gold Dot holds up well beyond those parameters although expansion isn't guaranteed through various barriers.

    I wonder if niche ammo companies with good quality control ought to be using this particular .355" bullet design in their amped-up 9mm ammo as well as their .357sig offerings. Makes sense to me. (I'll bill my consulting fees to the ammo companies later :cool:)
     
  13. Tiro Fijo

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    What part of the "in my guns" don't you understand? Hell, you can't even shoot a Gen 4 w/o brass to your precious little face!! Go troll in GG and leave me out of your posts. :wavey:
     
  14. I have used +p+ 124 load and in the g19 the flash was the same or at least not worse. It does have more more muzzle jump , which maybe a concern in even a smaller handgun


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  15. Glockbuster

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    Impressive round, looks like they improved an already good round.


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  16. avenues165

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    I recall a thread on here a month or two ago that had numbers from a 4" barrel for the Underwood 357 sig. IIRC the average was around 1,380fps. Also, IIRC, the 1,450fps number they claim is from a G31.

    I hope this was a bad chronograph or a fluke, because 1,380fps from a 4" barrel is not super impressive for 357 sig.
     
  17. avenues165

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  18. kjunderwood

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    If you head over to our website www.UnderwoodAmmo.com you can calculate exact shipping in the shopping cart.