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Unauthorized surveillance?

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by jp3975, May 26, 2011.

  1. jp3975


    Nov 13, 2008
    Texarkana, Tx
    I dont want to say where i work or who is involved...but I do security in a large area where police also work and we work with each other frequently.

    Earlier this week a certain officer video tapped two of our guards walking together and sent it to the people in charge, who sent it to our regional manager who sent it to our captain who told us about it.

    Basically the police officer is trying the best he can to get us in trouble...while he's on duty. I think its over a personal beef with us that wasn't our fault.

    Today I was talking to another guard...not for long about our hours and a minor incident that just happened. The same officer drives by on his cart and Im pretty sure i see him take a photo of us with his phone.

    I confronted him about it very respectfully and he got pretty agitated. Later i heard a maintenance person talk about how mad he was and that he said he was worried about his boss hearing about it.

    So...I was wondering if its legal for him to do that sort of thing or if its at least frowned upon to video tape employees who have nothing to do with his dept and turn it in to our bosses?

    I dont plan to take any action just wondering.
  2. I have to ask: is this a business, rail yard or what?

    If there is a pissing contest going on, it has to be nipped off quickly or it will go brass to brass and will not end well.

  3. jp3975


    Nov 13, 2008
    Texarkana, Tx
    Id rather not say. I really dont want to give away the location. If the location is known it wouldnt be hard to find out who the officers are there....and i dont need a bigger mess. Not that any of you would do that...but id rather not take chances. I almost didnt make this post in the first place.

    Not much of a pissing match. At least not on our part or most officers. We just do our jobs and the cops enforce the law.

    Any thoughts on the surveillance?
    Last edited: May 26, 2011
  4. collim1

    collim1 Shower Time!

    Mar 14, 2005
    Its definately not illegal.
  5. Fireplug


    Apr 14, 2005
    Big D violation if in public area. Personally ask your supervisor to speak with him. If that doesn't solve it then go to his supervisor.

    But with that being said, if you are doing your job and following policy then you have nothing to worry about. Ignore him.

    When I was a Security Officer we had a Police Officer that was pissed off because we took his extra job. He was trying the best he could to get us fired or in trouble. I was waiting to go though the Academy and the last thing I needed was him screwing things up. So the next time he came out on a shoplifting call I spoke with him, explaining that THIS is my livelyhood and how he had a fulltime job with benefits and could get another "extra job". He didn't say much but the problems stopped.
  6. May not be illegal but what about policy?
  7. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

    Apr 30, 2005
    I would take it straight to the officers supervisor and ask for clarification. Ask him if part of the LEO's duties are to monitor security personnel, video tapping them and photographing them or if this is something he is doing instead of performing his assigned duties.
  8. Bruce M

    Bruce M

    Jan 3, 2010
    S FL
    Doesn't sound illegal to me but it does sound petty and immature
    Last edited: May 26, 2011
  9. blueiron


    Aug 10, 2004
    Photography in the public arena, aside from inside a residence, a private area such as restrooms/changing rooms. etc., and specified government buildings/facilities is legal.

    Generally, one has no express right to visual recording privacy in public venues [when you are at work, out in public, etc.].
  10. blueiron


    Aug 10, 2004
    A police officer has inherent and definable public interest in watching for criminal activity and monitoring the actions of people in the public arena - 'public safety'.
  11. SAR


    Apr 17, 2004
    LA LA Land
    Are you guys mall ninjas by any chance?
  12. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

    Apr 30, 2005
    I just wanna know if the police officers "cart" has a police package with a electric interceptor motor.

  13. Newcop761

    Newcop761 CLM

    Jan 29, 2001
    In Existential Crisis
    By any chance do you work in one of
    ? :whistling:
    Last edited: May 26, 2011
  14. CJStudent

    CJStudent Fenced In

    Nov 3, 2005
    Good old Gecko45.....

  15. trdvet


    Oct 2, 2004
    Did the Cop say, "am I being detained?" over and over again?
  16. x_out86


    Feb 19, 2007
    No...but they do carry a briefcase with ceramic plates inside to cover their heads if they come under fire. Oh, and they do also have those "special shoes" for climbing walls.

    Oh wait....:embarassed:
    Last edited: May 26, 2011
  17. And so it begins . . . :rofl:
  18. Panzergrenadier1979

    Panzergrenadier1979 Keystone Cop

    Jan 16, 2009
    Central Pennsylvania
    Do you guys have try-outs for the 3 man, Rapid Tactical Force, or, is a rotating position? :supergrin:
  19. With license plate readers.
  20. OLY-M4gery


    Nov 7, 2001
    Southern WI
    Bigger battery, and the cupholders will fit 32 oz drink cups, standard only fits 20 oz.