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UFOs and Extraterrestrial Life

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by CarryTexas, Nov 11, 2013.

  1. CarryTexas

    CarryTexas

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    8.8 billion earth sized planets

    I came across this article and it got me thinking back to a number of threads in the past on here where people have dismissed the idea of UFOs and extraterrestrial life. I have heard arguments about distances and vastness of space etc.. However, as this article says they estimate that there are 8.8 billion planets in our galaxy alone that are in the “Goldilocks Zone”.

    That is 8.8 billion chances for life to take root. That is a lot of chances for advanced societies to develop and explore. On earth we had life wiped out several times and pretty much started from scratch. What if on some other planet they had their industrial revolution a million or even 10 million years before ours?

    Is every light in the sky an alien spacecraft? No! However, there have been quite a few reports from pilots and other very credible witnesses who have seen things very close up that are hard to deny. The 747 shadowed by the UFO in Alaska for example.

    Link to Story

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iSzjoGwxG4

    Based on the eyewitness reports and what we do know. What is the logic behind those of you that say that either extraterrestrial life doesn’t exist or the whole UFO phenomenon is just a bunch of people misidentifying airplanes or swamp gas or something?
     
  2. robin303

    robin303 Helicopter Nut

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    There is more planets and stars in space than all the grains of sand on earth. We are not alone.
     

  3. MaxxAction

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    In my humble opinion...

    to admit there is, or even that there is a real possibility of extraterrestrial life is to turn one's convenient, compartmentalized world view on it's head.

    Knowing something, or having an alleged handle on how things "really are" brings a sense of security and order that would be quickly erased if the government would come out and admit that, yes, there is extraterrestrial life, and they have known it for decades. Everything we thought we knew would be blown to dust, and the foundation for our worldview would have to be rebuilt. That scares most people to death.
     
  4. Cybercowboy

    Cybercowboy Support the 2nd

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    I think it is highly likely there is life on other planets in our galaxy, some intelligent although we might not recognize them as such. I just find that remaining skeptical about UFO's is the prudent attitude to assume because fantastic claims require fantastic evidence. So far there have been no real hard evidence of UFO's being alien spacecraft.

    It is a statistical certainty that other intelligent life exists in our universe. I can't prove that to anyone who doesn't understand the math, but suffice it to say there is only so many ways to rearrange atoms and there is enough matter in what we think is our universe to make it a near certainty that an exact duplicate of Earth exists somewhere else, at some time. I know that sounds crazy, but the math works.

    Also I think it would be a huge waste if intelligent life was not able to travel between the stars within the specie's lifetimes, and so I hold out hope that we can find a way to make a warp drive or equivalent that can travel FTL.
     
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  5. JBnTX

    JBnTX Bible Thumper

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    Yes, we are not alone and in more ways than you can even imagine.
     
  6. zeke501

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    CarryTexas...if you are interested in this try watching this video

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAIVqUm0x7M"]Tom Horn, LA Marzulli & Gary Stearman 1 of 4 The Secret Alien Agenda On Prophecy In The News - YouTube[/ame]

    Tom Horn L A Marzulli and Gary Stearman ..The Secret Alien Agenda...Their are 4 parts ....they have a lot of videos on you tube....see what you think ...zeke
     
  7. CarryTexas

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    Are you speaking from experience?
     
  8. MtBaldy

    MtBaldy Obie Wan, RIP

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    To paraphrase Enrico Fermi, "If the universe is teeming with intelligent life, why aren't they here?"

    It's a tough one to answer. There are possible scenarios of course but none are very convincing. Bottom line is: If there are multitudes of intelligent life capable of interstellar travel they should be here. As far as we can tell they're not. Either they're not here or they are and they're very good at hiding their activities.
     
  9. tsmo1066

    tsmo1066 Happy Smiley

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    With all due respect to Enrico Fermi, how does he or anyone else know that they aren't here?

    I would imagine that any race/entity/culture, etc. that is capable of freely travelling the known galaxy would be equally capable of staying out of sight from a bunch of primates that haven't even cracked intra-stellar travel yet, much less inter-stellar.
     
  10. MtBaldy

    MtBaldy Obie Wan, RIP

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    I was at a UFO conference in Gulf Breeze, FL in 1993. After the evenings lectures a number of people went to the infamous Shoreline Park in hopes of seeing something unusual. I first sat on a picnic table with another MUFON official and one other gentleman. This guy insisted every light in the sky, and there were a LOT of lights in the sky, was a UFO. As MUFON Field Investigators we tried to tell him they were aircraft either from Pensacola NAS or Pensacola airport. He wasn't buying it. We pointed out the strobe lights and the navigation lights and he still wasn't buying it.

    Tiring of the game I moved to another table. This one had a beautiful blond hippy type chick sitting at it. We talked for a few minutes and she said, "Did you see the aliens at the lecture?" Ummm, no, pretty sure there were no aliens at the lecture. She became animated, "YES!, Yes there were! There were glowing blue aliens standing in the corners behind the podium! I thought everyone could see them." She really appeared serious. Then she said, "Why do you suppose they would be here tonight?" Two choices were obvious. Since she really was hot despite the odor of patchouli I chose the second option and said, "Well it's not really surprising that they would want to know how much we know about them now is it?" She was very impressed with my observation and things were looking promising, right up until her husband walked over and sat down.

    He proceeded to tell me he had a revolutionary new theory of physics that would change the world and was writing a book. I said, "Cool, I may not understand the math but I would like to read it". He says, "Oh, I don't know any math. This just came to me in a vision". I said good night to them and went back to my room and bottle of Johnnie Walker Black.

    ps

    In case anyone hasn't figured out what option 1 replying to the blond would be, it was, "There were no aliens. You're bat poop crazy. Seek help"
     
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  11. MtBaldy

    MtBaldy Obie Wan, RIP

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    And that was one of my options.
     
  12. tsmo1066

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    I agree with you. Just wanted to throw a bit more out there against Fermi's rather myopic argument.
     
  13. CarryTexas

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    There are certainly nuts out there and any sane person will see that. I gave an example of a credible witness in the 747 crew. These aren't the only witnesses that are credible.

    As for how the ETs would say hidden. Well, have they stayed completely hidden? There are tons of witnesses out there. Many are completely normal and some are people who should know what they're talking about like pilots.

    I have never personally seen anything I couldn't explain, but I my parents have. And I know they're not by any means nutty.
     
  14. Oh yeah. While I accept / believe that there is likely life out there, I've met and currently work with a number of people who are really "into it" and they are like you describe. It's scary listening to them talk to each other. It's like they know they are playing a game though...like kids pretending a cowboy / indian game. They know they are acting but they get a kick out of it. At least I hope so.

    A recent example is this 50 year old guy (I'll call him Fred because that's his name) that works for me. He's a gun nut who loves the whole alien bit. He's convinced he will pass onto be an alien in the next life and has been told this by some sort of alien mentor guy. So, the mentor offers to tell Fred what his alien name will be, and will show Fred what his "symbol" will be for a small fee of only a couple hundred dollars. Deal baby. So Fred fills out a very short info form where he includes his activities as collecting guns and NRA related events. His name was revealed to him, GUNRA.
     
  15. Syclone0538

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    I think it likely that there is life elsewhere. I think it likely that it is too far away for us to even know it is there.
     
  16. Syclone0538

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSJElZwEI8o"]Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson on UFOs - YouTube[/ame]
     
  17. IceAxe

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    strictly speaking, God is an "extraterrestrial"
     
  18. And boom goes the dynamite.
     
  19. GD2J

    GD2J GoDirectly2Jail

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    My personal belief is that aliens exist. My personal belief also is that none have visited earth in the past 1000 years (at least), if ever.
     
  20. happyguy

    happyguy Man, I'm Pretty

    I don't see how anyone could close their mind to the possibility of extraterrestrial life.

    But if it exists, they've got a long way to go to get here.

    Regards,
    Happyguy :)