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Two charged after refusing to show gun permits

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by TBO, Jul 17, 2012.


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  1. TBO

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    Why so serious?
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    I don't see why those kids would be like that.
    That's just dumb.:dunno:
     

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    You can't possibly be serious. The youngsters are likely members, or serious lurkers, of OC forums all over the web. Hope they enjoy their legal troubles. Wonder what their user names in here are?
     
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    Obviously these two young men were up to no good, imagine somebody daring to pick up road side trash.

    Not sure why they would not show their ID's, you can not carry off private property in Indiana without a License To Carry (LTC). I think Indiana repealed the statute that required you to show your LTC on demand, at least I can't find it on the ISP website.

    "A charge of failure to aid a police officer." I guess it is true, they can always find something to charge you with.
     
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    Alright, before everyone gets all in a tiz and has a hissy-fit, from handgunlaw.us:
    Emphasis is mine.

    As to the knife charge, I believe you can stick a fork in him. Again from handgunlaw.us - Knife Laws:
     
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    Why are you citing South Carolina law when the incident is in Indiana?

    tomcon beat me to it...
     
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    On OCDO Mr. Mayberry of Portage is "Mayberryy". Open Carry Litter Pickup
     
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    Does Indiana allow a 19 year old to have a permit to carry?
     
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    this case will crumble like a house of cards...
     
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    Yes, 18 is the minimum age to get your LTC.

     
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    I wonder if they would have officially "adopted" the clean-up of that stretch of the highway, if it would have made a difference.

    Do you think the real story went something like this, " Litterbug throws trash out of vehicle, sees armed men picking up trash and fears "Litter-rage."

    All joking aside, I hope they manage to get the charge of failure to aid a police officer dropped.
     
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    Caught that and fixed it while tomcon was posting and before yours showed up.
     
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    Right in my backyard. I've had a couple of kids in my gunshop that do that. I'm not against the idea of open carry, but, in a realistic world, this is the kind of crap that can happen to you. Should it happen? Nope. Will it? Not worth the risk for me, personally.

    -magiaaron
     
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    What do you mean, "Indiana is not an open carry state..."? What makes it so?
     
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    Nope, a call to local PD saying, "We're going to be cleaning up a stretch of road on Sunday and we're going to be open carrying our sidearms. Just wanted to give you a heads up in case someone calls in."

    What is so wrong about doing that?
     
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    you savvy?

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    that requires using your brain.
     
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    I do believe it has been done before.

    The illegal knife charge may be an issue not so easily resolved...
     
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    Per opencarry.org, "Indiana is not a traditional open carry state." The same web site also says open carry with a permit is legal.

    It might be a stretch, but refusal to produce a permit seems to give police probable cause to believe a crime is being committed. See IC 35-47-2-1, et. al. for specifics, including Sec. 24, which states "burden of proof is on the defendant". I suspect the charge of "failure to aid a police officer" will stick since they did eventually produce carry permits.
     
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