I'm a bit of a .380 ACP enthusiast, but while this deals with the .380 cartridge, the rest of the calibers in this line should be worth looking into. Twin Pines, who brought us the RIA 1911 line of pistols has trundled out 'Silver Bullets' ---silver-jacket HP ammo, supposedly effective against 'werewolves' and undead. ;Q Hokey advertising blurb aside, I chrono'ed the shiny little suckers and obtained muzzle velocities way in excess of their claimed 1,034 ft/s: ten shots, throwing out the highest and lowest, averaged 1056 ft/s out of my Bersa Thunder 380. Max. deviation of velocity among the 8 was 19 ft/s. The disregarded low was 1033 ft/s, and the discarded high was 1074 ft/s. Water testing (elsewhere) showed expansion about equal to water expansion of Remington Golden Sabers, over 76% though the expansion was at times lopsided, with some fragmentation of the lip. That's in water though, not gel or meat. Recoil was pretty stiff, and while the report sounded (in the words of one onlooker) like very hot 9mm, the muzzle flash was no worse than a PMC/El Dorado Starfire's. Thanks, to Cute and Ian of P.B.Dionisio Firng range for making available the chronograph, which was "calibrated" against known performers like the Remington GS, Fiocchi and Armscor .380 cartridges: the chrono was dead-on. At the range, I got to meet 'Arnold' from Fairview with his S&W 9mm, and a very experienced marksman named 'Joji', toting his custom Para Ordnance. Mustachioed Joji seemed a bit impressed with the apparent power of these Silver Bullet 90 gr JHP's. There's one major problem with these cartridges though... For some reason, Twin Pines has stopped selling them in 25-round boxes, and has opted for 6 in a pseudo-blister pack. Now, the problem is that the plastic 'blister' is sized for six .45 ACP cartridges. To keep the smaller .380's from rolling loosely in the pack, Twin Pines has resorted to a strip of Scotch tape across the cases. This leaves a serious amount of adhesive gum on said cases when you liberate them from the tape strip --enough goop to cause mag hangups! I had to clean each casing of adhesive --and I hate having to do that because it's cleaning up someone else's mistake, and particularly because (depending on any cleaning agent used) it can potentially harm the cartridge propellant. Twin Pines really needs to think when selecting its packaging strategies. This is a big enough turn-off for me to disregard what is otherwise a very worthy self-defense cartridge. I transmitted this complaint to the salesgirls at Twin Pines MCS, who indicated they would pass it on to the owners. The Silver Bullet .380 90gr SJHP retails for P18.00 a cartridge. horge Wanna kill these ads? We can help!