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Discussion in 'Indiana Glockers' started by USMCGLOCKER, Apr 27, 2007.

  1. USMCGLOCKER

    USMCGLOCKER

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    I posted this in "General Glocking" and wanted the Indiana people to give feedback too.
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    I was shooting with a friend out in the national forest here in Indiana, and we heard some yelling, so we stopped firing and took out our earplugs.

    Two older guys(40's - 50's) in camouflage came up to us from out of a ravine and gave us some serious s**t about shooting there and how it was dangerous because people might have been around.

    Shooting in the National Forest is legal, and we aren't any closer than a mile from any homes or ranches, and we always know what is behind our targets. (many, many trees and dirt)

    One guy asked to see my handgun license (I have a LCH) but I refused to show him. He then said that I HAD to show him, because the other guy was a cop. I asked to see his badge, then showed him my license.

    It felt like they were trying to just pull a power trip, what should I have done? Needless to say, we packed up our stuff and left the forest. I am not the only one that shoots there. there are frequently many casings on the ground that are of calibers that i don't own, and i plan on shooting there still.

    Anyone have constructive comments for me?
     
  2. axel

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    Thoughts in no particular order:

    1)how could you be 100% sure that there wasn't someone behind the targets but out of eyesight?
    2)how could you be sure someone a quarter mile beyond the targets wouldn't wander into range of a bullet?
    3)was the dirt burm high enough to negate 1) and 2)?
    4)I didn't know it was legal to shoot in a National Forest.
    5)I think you are required to show your carry permit to a LEO if asked but it sounds like it wasn't the LEO doing the asking. If it had been me I probably wouldn't have shown it to the guy unless asked by the LEO and even then I would only show it to the LEO not the other guy.
    6)why does the carry permit even come into play? Not everyone who goes shooting at a range has a carry permit. You can legally carry the weapon unloaded in a locked case in the trunk without a permit, can't you?
    7)I'd have to see the area to know whether or not I would feel comfortable shooting there but if you've scoped it out and believe it to be a safe place to shoot then I'd say be safe and have fun.
     

  3. txgho1911

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    Call the forestry office. It is legal as it is not a park.
    You may do some research and print a copy. you could also just say the truth as there is no law against target shooting in the forest. I called and confirmed. I would recommend policing your brass because no one else will.
     
  4. dwh79

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    You can not transport a handgun in indiana with out a carry license. They have speacial permits for target shooting and for personal protection. Depending on where you were in the National forrest that are off limits to target shooting. It is listed in there flyers. These are the areas where the state owns land that is intermixed with the federal lands.
     
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    i was under the impression it was perfectly legal too. i think those guys were looking for someone to yell at. as long as you are shooting into the berm of a ravine, it is perfectly safe. dont show your license to anyone not a LEO. you dont have to. nice job there.
     
  6. USMCGLOCKER

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    thanks for the input everyone!

    I think I'm going to find a different, even MORE secluded spot to avoid this kind of situation.
     
  7. KSFreeman

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    Are you legal to shoot there? Were there people around? Do you have a proper backstop and know what is behind it?

    If you are legal to shoot there, no people around running back and forth (like Police Squad) and you have a solid backstop, tell them to have a nice day and continue shooting. Oh, yeah, police your brass.
     
  8. R. Emmelman

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    "Two older guys(40's - 50's) in camouflage came up to us from out of a ravine and gave us some serious s**t about shooting there and how it was dangerous because people might have been around."

    I really don't need to comment on this, do I? Morons!
     
  9. rhino465

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    I just thought of something . . . (and forgive me if someone else has mentioned this too) . . . if it's not safe to target shoot and plink there, why is it safe to shoot for hunting purposes? Seems like the safety risks associated with the former would be even worse with the latter.
     
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    Just because it's "legal" doesn't always mean that it's "smart".
     
  11. R. Emmelman

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    OK, so I am in camouflage, and in a ravine, and I hear gun shots. I am just going to poke my head up like a prarie dog? Like I said, morons.

    Also wonder what they were doing out there? I have heard about some drug making labs being set up in the middle of nowhere. Hmmmm.....
     
  12. USMCGLOCKER

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    I don't know if their story is legit or not, people do mushroom hunt down here.

    What I thought to be odd is that they made a point to come over to us to "investigate" rather than just pass through. Hell, we were given the 3rd degree by the non-badge having one. (who knows if it was real... I couldn't tell a fake from a real one.)
     
  13. boby

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    Ask for an ID card next time. The badge means nothing without ID card...

    Anyone can custom make a badge and impersonate an LEO.
     
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    Yup. There are many places out there that will make a badge for you and not even think twice about it.
     
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    bah who knew it was already forest ninja season
     
  16. sjstill

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    Sounds like you were there for the start of turkey season and you flushed a couple of 'em out.....

    :animlol:
     
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    prolly cooking meth...



    bubba wasn't missing some teeth was he?

    twitching a bit?

    smell like urine?
     
  18. boby

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    In what manner did he procure his badge. Was it in a wallet? Was it attached to anything? On his belt? Or did he just whip out a badge from his pocket?
     
  19. dblagent

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    Was this the place we were just talking about in the other thread? I have never ran into anyone there. I normally yell out first, than shoot 1-2 rounds into the back of the ravine and wait to see if anyone is around first, then start shooting.

    To everyone else - If this is where we were discussing the other day it is a very safe area to shoot in, shooting downhill into a ravine with the entire ravine wall area available as a backstop. I also second that there is NOONE around there for miles in the direction you shoot, I looked it up on google maps to be very sure.

    Sorry to hear of the trouble, let me know if you find a better area as I have been looking and that was as good as I had found so far.
     
  20. USMCGLOCKER

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    Twas embedded in a leather wallet looking thing.