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Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by gudel, Jul 19, 2004.

  1. gudel

    gudel

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    how the hell do you get it? i have my computer for 4 years at home, 2 years laptop, 4 years at work.
    not once, i repeat, not once i get spyware or any kind of virus. nothing on adware, and nothing on NAV.

    so, how do you do it? this always baffles me.
     
  2. David_G17

    David_G17 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

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    kazaa, porn sites, warez, there are many sources.
     

  3. ronin_asano

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    i have the same question. i have never been infected either.
     
  4. gudel

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    done them all. i still got nothing. what gives?
     
  5. NetNinja

    NetNinja Always Faithful

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    David_G17 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

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    let me add one to the list:
    teenagers with admin access.
     
  7. berniew

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    do you click 'ok' to every pop up you see without reading it?

    do you install any odd ball 'utility' that claims it will triple your internet speed, etc....
     
  8. podwich

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    I got one once. I was dl'ing some software from a website and carelessly clicked the OK box after I clicked the download link (usually the first thing to pop up after clicking a dl link is the save as box). Well, turns out I said OK to installing some program that changed my homepage, search options, etc. and didn't want to go away. It took a bit of effort to get rid of it.

    It was a dumb mistake. I knew better but was in a hurry and assumed. On the bright side, it's the only junk I've gotten on any of my computers yet.
     
  9. gudel

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    no, that's what popup blockers are for :)
    no, i have broadband. ;f

    i've seen gator, mouse cursors, sexdialer.exe, and other plug ins asking for installations. lots of these specially when you're downloading cracks ;P those keygens are never loaded with virus either ;)

    and i do all this with internet explorer! ;f

    how many gigs do you have? ;f
     
  10. srhoades

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    I got the netsky virus recently. Norton was up to date but I didn't have the latest updates from Microsoft so when I opened outlook express it automatically opened and executed what was in any attatchment. Got the updates and more importantly switched to Firefox and Thunderbird.
     
  11. Harlequin

    Harlequin I need a weapon

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    Most people surf the net completely clueless about basic security. They run all sorts of programs to help yet don't have the most elementary knowledge of what they are doing. All the firewall, ad blocking, ad removing, popup blocking, spyware detecting and removing, spam filtering, cookie controlling, virus detecting and removing software in the world won't protect someone who surfs aimlessly in places they shouldn't be and opens every attachment.

    For people without that knowledge, taking the most basic steps toward security, like switching browswer and email programs and keeping virus software updated, will help considerably. Eventually, they will get hit.

    Like gun safety, education goes much farther than mechanical devices. Same with computers. Learn how to protect yourself rather than installing more software.
     
  12. Fireglock

    Fireglock Which is worse?

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    Personally I'm not interested in being a MS or even PC guru. I want to use the computer, not be a slave to it. After running a Mac (still have it) and switching to the world of MS because of work, I find little to make me want to delve deeper into the swamp of "all the time PC maintenance." If cars were like PCs you would never get out of town. And that's what it takes to avoid problems, constant attention.

    I pay attention, change software when I can to make thing easier and try to avoid the entanglements whenever possible. I think the best things I've done are moving to Firefox and Open Office. Now I need something that will replace Outlook, let me store my e-mails (my .pst files) and work for contacts and scheduling. Linux is next after that.

    The title of this thread shows a snobbish attitude which I previously had noticed as being absent in this forum. :( To date I've gotten a ton of good useful information here, I hope that continues. Wondering why people get hung out using a PC shows a basic lack of understanding of what people buy computers for. There's more of us using them than making a living or hobby of fixing and nurturing them.

    To HerrGlock, Harlequin, ronin_asano, MB-G26 thanks, I appreciate the help. There are many others who have helped me here as well, thanks to you.
     
  13. ronin_asano

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    your outlook replacement is going to be thunderbird. the mail is stored in plain text and you can get at it with any program that can read plain text.

    if you need a calendar, take a look at sunbird.

    a piece meal solution, but the best so far from mozilla.

    on linux, you can try evolution, which is an outlook type applicaton, which thought i have not used it, i understand it replaces outlook quite well. i'm not aware of a windows version, but it might exist.
     
  14. gudel

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    heh, did i pinch a nerve or what ;f it's sad that you feel that way about My post, but dissent is always expected. interested to note that people blame on the software, not the user. i never seen one post that says, "okay, i ****ed up, i open up some executable that i don't know where it came from, now my computer's jacked".
    the same argument is used by anti gun people to say, gun is unsafe, it kills people by going off itself without mentioning the incompetency of the shooter. not necessarily education, a simple basic common sense is needed. when i first started gun, i didn't know much about it, except that i know i if i pull the trigger, it will go off, and put the business end away from myself.

    so please don't say that it's snob title or anything, look at yourself. the computer didn't install malware on its own, neither the gun goes off on its own.
     
  15. Fireglock

    Fireglock Which is worse?

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    Obviously I wasn't clear. It's not my nerves, it's your attitude. :(
     
  16. plato

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    I update frequently, MS windows, Adaware, spywareblaster, Norton, CWShredder, HijackThis, Spybot, Googletoolbar, I have my firewalls turned ON and I have my PRIVACY set on Medium High.

    I do daily scans.

    I still catch things once in a while. Major pain in the ass.



    ;1
     
  17. SamBuca

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    This is inaccurate. Your computer has a 3 point safety mechanism just like your Glock (virus/spyware/MS updates) however not keeping them up to date causes problems....just like not doing the safety upgrades from Glock.

    Didn't do the G19 upgrade from '92? Whoops...slam fire.

    Didn't do the MS update from last week? Whoops...spyware installed via IE exploit.

    Virus programs can update themselves without user interaction...Windows can update itself without user interaction (XP service pack 2 will do a wonderful job of this)...spyware programs (like pestpatrol.com) require no user intervention. You don't need to be a computer whiz or a genius...you need to take FIVE minutes and do a few steps ONCE. Just ONCE. Granted, you shouldn't become oblivious to things...but it won't require constant babysitting or weekly posts on the board asking about the latest browser hijack.

    You also don't need to do all these registry tweaks, Windows services hacks, install 8 programs, switch to a Mozilla product and all this other stuff. PM me for the easy way.
     
  18. Moprine

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    switch to a Mozilla product and all this other stuff. PM me for the easy way.




    MOZILLA IS FAR FAR BETTER THAN any other browser out there at this moment....especially for us average computer techs~~IMO anyways:)
     
  19. Harlequin

    Harlequin I need a weapon

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    You quoted my post, yet I didn't say a thing about your original post or the attitude of it.

    Bugs, viruses, and other computer afflictions are a fact of computing life and always will be. You don't have to be a comp genius to know how to deal with them. Someone who buys a gun and carries it daily but doesn't train or practice is nearly as dangerous as the criminal with it.

    It's your computer. It's your grand you paid for it. It's your money at the repair shop when something goes wrong. Knowledge can be had for free. Just ask or Google it! That knowledge can save you a lot of money.
     
  20. Fireglock

    Fireglock Which is worse?

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    I think he was poking at me but had a "personal" computer error. :)