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To Holster, or Not To Holster

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by Sooie, Nov 3, 2011.

  1. Sooie

    Sooie Wooo Pig

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    posting this on another gun board or 2, see what the general consensus is...

    ive only been carrying for about 2 years now. i have a few iwb holsters, and one thats blackhawk soft pouch IWB/OWB/Pocket carry holsters. ive used it everyday for pocket carry on g27. i like it, bc i pocket carry. but its really useless in a defensive situation because of NO RETENTION ability.

    heres the problem. when i attach holster to my belt/pants, no matter what gun i put in, as soon as i start moving around, my pants start falling down. i HATE IT! which is why ive preferred to pocket carry for soo long.

    does anyone else have this problem? can it be fixed? surely the guns arent too heavy to carry or they wouldnt make iwb holsters for them, surely some people have good luck with this.

    whether its a full size 1911 or baby glock, they feel the same when i start moving and pants start sliding down.

    any suggestions?
     
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  2. captdreifus

    captdreifus aSun666

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    Get a gun belt and better holster. Be prepared to spend $30-100 for a reputable gun belt. The one I use the most is the Wilderness Instructors belt. I use a M-Tac for my Glocks (All models) for IWB. OWB, I use Safariland and Galco respectively.


    Edit: To answer your question, holster. From what you have described, it seems that carrying is a difficult and cumbersome task. A gun belt and quality holster will make carrying easy..
     

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  3. LibertyPatriot

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    I carry a G23 in a CBST all day everyday and use a Red Wing Boots 1-1/2" single ply leather belt with no problems of my pants falling down. And I have a gut that is fighting that belt for room all the time.

    To quote a SNL sketch about the GAP girls, "Did ya' cinch it?"


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    Thanks GT!
     
  4. Sooie

    Sooie Wooo Pig

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    cool. thanks.

    will look into a belt. and maybe its the holster too.

    fwiw, the belt i use is a general leather belt from American Eagle, LOL definitely not a duty belt!

    forgot to mention, im left handed and carry a RH IWB @ 7-8 oclock. its a THEIS holster and i feel its a really good one, but am not against trying others.
     
  5. captdreifus

    captdreifus aSun666

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    I'd suggest using the correct holster for a lefty. I'm in the 17% as well. Did you really use a right handed holster this whole time???
     
  6. dosei

    dosei

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    Get a belt...a good one.

    Here are a few good ones:
    Aker - B21
    Wilderness - Instructor Belt (CSM model)
    thebeltman.net - Horsehide, Reinforced
    Ares Gear - Ranger Belt

    Belts to avoid:
    ANY belt made from a single piece of leather.
    Any belt made by Wrangler, Dickies, Carhart, etc.
    Any belt that can be found at Wal-Mart, Sears, JC Penny's, Tractor Supply, Macys, Belks, Dillards, etc.



    Also...
    Where are the top of your pants in relation to your waist? (Do you "bust a sag" or whatever it's called today?)
     
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  7. sr975j

    sr975j

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    ^^^listen to this guy. very good points. ill add another. if you can buy the belt at a store, its not the same quality and sturdiness of the belts previously mentioned. i have an aker b21 that i am a really big fan of. i was on a lower budget at the time of purchase but plan to get a beltman belt fairly soon to try it out.

    Sam
     
  8. Sooie

    Sooie Wooo Pig

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    YES LOL.

    i dont mind the draw, if your a lefty and use a RH holster @ 7 or so, the draw isnt too bad... for me. but i bet a real LH holster would be much better. its just a matter reaching "palm facing out" instead of "palm facing in" for a RH holster used by lefty.


    and thanks dosei, will look into it.
     
  9. sr975j

    sr975j

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    my two favorite holsters right now are the remora holster and the glock combat holster. the remora, in my opinion, is the most versatile holster on the market today. you cant adjust the cant and depth of your gun quickly and easily. out of my small holster collection, the remora is my go to holster for incredible concealment and comfort.......and its very inexpensive.

    get a good gun belt and a proper holster.

    Sam
     
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  10. Leigh

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    Do yourself a huge favor and please get a LH draw holster.

    With practice, your draw will become more fluid, natural, and faster AND you won't be sweeping yourself with a loaded weapon near as much.
     
  11. fuzzy03cls

    fuzzy03cls

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    2 years & you don't have proper equipment? I think you also may want to invest some $ into good classes that teach you drawing, gun handling, equipment etc.
     
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  12. Sooie

    Sooie Wooo Pig

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    All points taken. Thanks.


    Yes I would like to take some classes in the future. I have a proper pocket carry holster and that's how I've carried for 2 years. I haven't carried with the rh holsters because of the incorrect belt issue.
     
  13. IndyGunFreak

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    Exactly. Don't waste money on that Red Wing belt.

    Another very good post. The Aker B21 is a GREAT first gun belt (assuming you want leather).
     
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  14. series1811

    series1811 Enforcerator. CLM

    Good advice here to buy a good belt. I'm wearing a Galco belt right now that I paid $130 for ten years ago. It's still a great belt. It doesn't make any sense to buy a nice holster and think it's going to work when you put it on a crappy belt.
     
  15. LibertyPatriot

    LibertyPatriot

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    Why, do you have first hand experience with it like I do? I have no issue with mine. Just because it doesn't say Gun Belt on the label doesn't mean it's no good for that purpose.


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    Thanks GT!
     
  16. taurn88

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    I've got a Columbia belt that is pretty sturdy, it's cheap but works. I have been eyeing CompTac's kydex belts for some time though, now that looks like it would last many lifetimes.
     
  17. dosei

    dosei

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    There isn't a single-ply leather belt in existence that can even come close to matching the performance of a proper double-ply leather belt...let alone the reinforced double-ply leather belts. A properly made double-ply leather gun belt will have the grain of the leathers deliberately "miss-matched" which makes the belt much more stretch resistant than any single-ply belt will ever be. Also, double-ply belts resist "rolling" much better than single-ply simply due to the structural advantages of "laminated" materials.

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    Add a reinforcement to a double-ply belt and you have one superbly stiff belt...and stiffer the better.
     
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  18. dosei

    dosei

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