http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwFKvfXnGHk&playnext=1&videos=Jfk6n82TLwU This test had the same results as the 9mm 124gr+p, no expansion whatsoever when shot through denim. He tested again with no demin, and the expansion wasn't anything to write home about. So far I have not been impressed by this ammunition. Wanna kill these ads? We can help!