The other day I ran across a load on this forum for 9mm: 3.2 gr Titegroup, Montana Gold 147 gr CMJ and 1.15 OAL. Sounds good to me as this appears to meet the IDPA minimum power factor of 125. Initially, I will be shooting an XD 9 with a 4" barrel. I wouldn't be surprised if I needed to add 0.1 gr or so to actually get the velocity. If I decide to compete regularly, I will probably try to get in the SSP class with a G34 that I would buy for the purpose. I understand the reason for heavy bullet/low velocity. My LGS doesn't stock Titegroup so I'll have to order it and pay the hazmat fee. It doesn't make sense to buy just a 1# can for $25 and then pay $25 for the fee. I starts to make more sense buying 4# or even 8#. But an 8# canister will load about 17,500 rounds. Kind of a lot. The 4# would be more reasonable at 8,750 rounds. Still, that's a lot of powder if the load doesn't work out. The question: is there any consensus that this is a reasonable load for IDPA? I know that WSF is popular but the pressure is much higher for the same velocity. I guess I could add some WSF to the order and share the fee. Any thoughts? Richard Wanna kill these ads? We can help!