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TIME's Fareed Zakaria-"Why We Need Pension Reform"

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by glockman66, Jun 17, 2012.


  1. glockman66

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    "Ohio's pension liabilities are now 35% of the state's entire GDP."

    Yikes. I realize that probably is decades of liabilities compared to one year's GDP, but still.
     
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    then let him turn over his pension to the states general fun and work into his 80's.
     
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    The crux of the problem. Financially, the states and federal government can't afford the future liabilities of these programs. But, poltically, they can't do away with them, or even significantly modify them and get re-elected.

    Greece?
     
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    What's he mean by 'pension reform' ?

    'We take yours and give it to somebody else' ?

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    Yes, that's EXACTLY what he means. The welfare class will be the last to be cut off.
     
  8. RickD

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    While some on the left would love to raid *private* pension funds, Zakaria is not advocating that in this TimeMag piece. This is all about public sector politics and pushing the cost down the road for political benefits today.

     
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    Sounds like one of those 'have to pass it to find out what's in it' bills to me .....:steamed:

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    Forget about the mess the states are in, get this: If the United States did their budgeting the way the law requires every private company to do theirs, this year's deficit would have been the equivalent of 88% of every citizen's income.

    In other words, if the United States were a private company, everyone would have to fork over 88% of their income to keep it solvent.

    As bad as the deficit is, the real horror story is being masked. The 16 trillion you hear about is the current deficit, not counting in long-term entitlement liabilities. Then, yes, there's the problems in the states. Overall, we're screwed!
     
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    So far, the solution appears to be devaluation of the US dollar.

    The .gov't will pay you every dollar they promised, the problem is that the dollar will be worth essentially nothing.

    It's obvious to me that future pensioners won't be able to live on their pension amounts. Worthless currency. A form of hidden tax. Since we are heading toward an electronic, paperless currency, you'll be spared the embarrassment akin to printing $10,000 notes and spending them on a single loaf of bread.
     
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    That would be fine. But, he probably still wants to funnel that money overseas.
     
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    They are feared by the political ruling class.

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    If YOU work for a living that negates being welfare.