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Time for new truck.. Tundra?

Discussion in 'Car Forum' started by Skyhook, Jul 11, 2007.

  1. Skyhook

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    My 2000 Tundra is getting long-in-tooth (74K mis) and I am thinking of ordering something to take its place.

    So far, the only truck that has me interested is that Toy 5.7 Tundra Ltd. Even though it has been 'Dodged-up' and made ugly as a wart, there is all that excellent reliability and handling I've enjoyed with the old Tundra to consider.

    My question: Anyone have 1st hand experience with this new Tundra? If so, care to give some evaluation?? Thanks.
     
  2. Adams454

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    A friend of mine is a salesman and brought one home over the weekend. I got to do some extensive test driving and that thing was awesome. With the really huge double cab and the 5.7 4x4 trd it hauls ass like a race car and asses like a bus. I have a DC taco that I bought in january and that is the only other truck I would even bat an eye at. I love my taco more than any I've ever had and the tundra still makes dream of getting one. If it were'nt for the 13 mpg I might actually consider it.
     

  3. FThorn

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    What the heck is a dc taco?
     
  4. Adams454

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    Sorry about that, I'm used to being on the toyota forums.

    DC taco = Double Cab Tacoma
     
  5. Skyhook

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    "13 mpg"?!? :alex:

    I thought the mpg was something on the order of ~17mpg. That I could live with as that's just what my 2000 Tundra gets routinely. But, 13?? Gack.
     
  6. Adams454

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    You'll only average about 13-14 with the 5.7 option. You might get 1-2 mpg better if you're really easy on it. I drive my truck like I stole it. Whats the use in having 236 horses if you stay in the slow lane. If you get the other v8 (I think its a 4.7) you'll get a little better mileage, but you lose a lot of the power. Lets face it, people don't spend $38,000 on a truck and compromise on the power.
     
  7. Skyhook

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    You're right, of course. V-8s are not fours, and I expect that truck's weight to subtract from the mileage.

    My 2000 TRD Tundra has that 4.7 and seldom hammer it. No need.

    Nonetheless, that mileage sticker estimate indicated better than 13-14, I think. And, would a sticker be wrong?!? :supergrin:
     
  8. why not goDIESEL?performance of a vette,mpg's of a honda,reliability of a mack truck!
     
  9. Skyhook

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    Well, frankly, I was actually thinking I'd get the 3/4 Dodge w/Cummins diesel as a friend has one (a 2006) and I was impressed with the quiet, powerful, performance. However, he had to have some kind of alternate computer system after-market thing installed to improve his mileage (he was getting 13mpg around town and 17 open road). Then, he started to have several pesky things needing warranty repair.. wipers, door seals, rear brakes, fan belt, switch on the driver's seat,and he can't keep a windshield in the thing. He's on his third one and there seems to be some kind of stress cracking as no stone chipping/hit can be found. :dunno:

    Maybe you know of a source for Toy diesels??
     
  10. i wish i had a source for toy diesels,heck i'd get myself one....well maybe two.i would try trucktrader.com if i were you.but be advised,a diesel will cost more up front,but will hold it's resale value longer,and should pay for itself in savings vs gas withen a few years
     
  11. Skyhook

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    Headin' into town to check out a green 5.7 this a.m.

    TRD, SR5, Steps (OFs call 'em 'running boards':supergrin: )

    They're asking $33,700........... we'll see about that.;)
     
  12. i know a place in texas you can buy a new cummins 3/4 ton loaded for about that price.
     
  13. Skyhook

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    That would darned near be worth the hassle of going to that great state.

    Heck, I could visit my SIL in Austin AND pick up a good deal at the Dodge place!

    HMMmmmmmmmmm.
     
  14. SAWMAN

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    Skyhook, check out that shifter/tranny. That is what made the vech so very appealing to me. Button on the console shifter(stick) or a little lever on the tranny arm. Gotta love it.

    IIRC....6 speed also.
     
  15. Warp

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    A "full size" truck with 236 horses seems like it belongs in the slow lane. :tongueout:
     
  16. OUSooner

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    The new Tundra has had major catastrophic engine failures and numerous other problems. It's obvious Toyota doesn't know how to make a real full size truck yet.

    Toyota

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    Toyota Tundra may be recalled

    Engine trouble on new Texas-made pickup could hurt quality reputation.

    Christine Tierney / The Detroit News



    Toyota Motor Corp. faces a costly setback in the biggest U.S. vehicle launch in its history after owners of its new Tundra pickup reported engine failures.

    The Japanese automaker may recall Tundras equipped with 5.7-liter V-8s to replace the engines, a company spokesman said Wednesday.

    The trouble with the Tundra's 5.7-liter engines, the most powerful engine available on the new pickup, is the latest in a series of recalls and problems that have dented Toyota's reputation.

    The automaker set the industry standards for vehicle quality, but now seems to be straining to maintain top quality as it expands overseas, builds factories and hires thousands of new workers.

    "It's really tough," said Karl Brauer, editor of Edmunds.com, an automotive research Web site. "Engine failure kills a car's ability to run and it's not a simple thing to fix."

    Such a problem is also likely to affect residual values, he said.

    Industry experts say Toyota is extremely vulnerable to negative publicity because of its prominence in the industry.

    In the first quarter of 2007, Toyota overtook General Motors Corp. to become the world's leading automaker in terms of sales.

    With the launch of the Tundra earlier this year, Toyota aims to double its share of the lucrative full-size pickup market, one of the few segments still dominated by the U.S. automakers.

    Toyota officials characterize the Tundra launch as the most important introduction in the company's history in the United States.

    The rollout has suffered delays and disappointments. For instance, the Tundra earned lower frontal crash scores than domestic rivals such as the Ford F-150 and Dodge Ram.

    But the engine problem is more damaging and could slow the vehicle's brisk sales momentum.

    Company spokesman Bill Kwong said Toyota realized in February that there was a problem with the camshafts delivered by a supplier for the 5.7-liter engine, and the automaker ordered the necessary changes to production.

    Still, Toyota has seen 20 cases of engine failure in trucks equipped with 5.7-liter engines, although no injuries have been reported.

    Toyota is now studying how many of the 30,000 5.7-liter engines it built are affected.

    Toyota builds the Tundra pickup at assembly plants in Princeton, Ind., and San Antonio, Texas, and makes the engines in Alabama.

    The automaker hopes to sell 200,000 new Tundras this year, compared with 124,508 previous-generation Tundras in 2006.

    But U.S. automakers are holding their own in the pickup market, and GM has been successful with its new Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra trucks.

    In contrast to their performance in the car market, where they have been pushed back by Japanese nameplates, American manufacturers account for more than 90 percent of full-size pickup sales, which totaled 2.2 million units in 2006.
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  17. Powder

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    20 engine failures out of 30k vehicles before they fixed the issue. That's only .0006%. Hardly something worth worrying about considering they fixed the supplier issues.
     
  18. Adams454

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    No, the 236 horse motor is the 4.0 v6 in my tacoma. It's not a fullsize at all.
    It's a midsize and beats what ford, chevy, and dodge have to offer. Trust me, when I bought mine I had shopped for months before deciding on the toyota. If it weren't for gas mileage I would have a tundra right now. The ford ranger was too small, the chevy colorado was very underpowered and the nissan just wasn't priced cheap enough to talk me out of the toyota.
    I have had my tacoma for 7 mos now and have just over 21000 on the odo, and couldn't be happier.
     
  19. Infallible

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    At the price of a Tacoma you can pick up a full size F150 or Silverado with a V8 for less money.
     
  20. I'd lean towards an American brand myself, but...

    If Toyota would make the Hino Turbo-Diesel an otion for the Tundra... oh man that'd be sweet! 220HP and 550 lb/ft. You could haul/tow ANYthing :)