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Thumb on top of thumb safety

Discussion in 'GATE Self-Defense Forum' started by The Viking, Jun 26, 2011.

  1. The Viking

    The Viking

    Feb 9, 2011
    If you are shooting a 1911, it is required in all classes ( I have ever attended) to place the thumb on top of the thumb safety . Is this also true of a HK P 30 with a thumb safety?
    It seems to me this would be most uncomfortable and not allow proper control of the pistol.
  2. Mas Ayoob

    Mas Ayoob KoolAidAntidote Moderator

    Nov 6, 2005
    First, the thumb on the manual safety of the 1911 isn't written in stone. Some of us have found that it pulls the web of the hand away from the grip safety and, with mil-spec guns, can result in failure to fire. Some of us have also found that with gloves on, it can cause the slide's movement to be retarded, resulting in a stoppage.

    Some of the HK pistols have a manual safety that also acts as a decocker. Too much pressure of the thumb on the slide -- more likely to occur in a high stress defensive situation than in the calmness of the range -- can lower the lever, preventing the gun from firing until the thumb's excessive downward pressure on the lever is relieved.

    Try a different grasp. If the ghost of Col. Cooper doesn't whack you on the thumb with a riding crop, you'll probably be good to go.