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Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by RussP, Feb 7, 2013.
Be safe out there!! I pray this ends quickly without the loss of anymore innocent lives.
This guy has stated his intentions. Leaving the truck there is either a distraction technique or preparation for a secondary attack.
I'm surprised he hasn't used a secondary on responding units at a scene.
This is going to get worse before it gets better.
I'll admit I haven't read the details of this story; I was just saying I've seen more of those than I'd have liked to over the last seven years. Like you said, though, usually something big: drugs or desertion, mostly.
They were talking about the Challenge coin that was mailed to Anderson Cooper (see below if you haven't already). They talked to Bill Bratton who said they coins are usually about 2" and looked like it had been shot with a .22
I don't know how much Bratton knows, but if that coin is 2", the holes look to be just a bit short of 1/2" across (the ones in the center...the one to the left is broader, but might have had a wobble, or two hits really close). In my completely inexpert opinion, it looks like a 9mm or .40, but definitely not a .22 if the coin really is 2" across.
This is sounding worse and worse...
With the snow and cold coming tonight, I hope he slowly freezes to death out there. Save everyone a lot of trouble.
From what I gather, this is begin to sound like a case of of Bi-Polar Mall Ninja that actually slipped past LEO Pschy screening and popped a gasket. One bad scene.
I read his manifesto, and read where he used physical force on people who had uttered racist remarks. When is it ok to use force for language?
It's sad the kind of support this d-bag is getting. Trending on twitter even! Maybe I should stay away from the internet....to many morons....
Be safe guys.....and try to bring him in alive. Don't let him become a martyr....
Got 3 calls in the morning and an email bulletin at work. Bad scene all around. Buddy was called up to take his unit to take part in the search after the morning briefing. Everyone was on edge but more so because this nutjob has openly threatened family members, which makes it that much more tense.
Hope they get him soon without any more good guys getting hurt.
I know everybody wants this guy gone, but I can't help but wonder if some have thought of not showing up for work to stay home and protect their families, especially those whose only means of protection is their duty weapon and may be a specific reason to be a target. I hope I'm wrong, and everybody is putting all efforts forward, but I've got to think it's crossed the minds of some.
If nothing else, I hope all the families have a plan, too. Seems nobody is safe out there.
Stay safe, be vigilant, and get this guy asap. I'm sending prayers out west.
I'll be the first to say it was very disconcerting to actually know how close this is getting to certain people I know as it has impacted quite a few agencies around the area in the SoCal counties, almost surreal. His manifesto declared total war on everyone and even though he is a nutjob, he said a lot of scary things which will make everyone look over their shoulders twice, because you just never know. Hope this ends soon.
We thought we may have been seeing the beginning of a similar situation as this. An officer on my shift had just resigned Monday in lieu of being terminated for various problems. While he was at IA, they asked him for his issued agency property, which included asking him if he had an issued AR-15, which he answered that he didn't. After checking the inventory which confirmed he did, IA contacted him today with a threat of criminal charges if he didn't turn it in. He turned it in with a loaded magazine and a round in the chamber. Hopefully, this is he end of his story.
Dorner, especially being an officer in the military as well as LAPD experience, is a force to be reckoned with. I believe the burned out vehicle is a decoy, and he is long gone from the area. I'm really happy the media is on this, hopefully putting far more eyes out there to help locate this idiot.
A good leader/boss would tell those directly named in this "manifesto" to stay home and protect their home and family. Screw the job, screw the manhunt. Protect home. Call in guys on overtime to fill the void those guys would leave on shift. I know if I was called to overtime so a coworker could stay home to protect his family, I would be in my car minutes after I hung up the phone.
I can't imagine how tense things must be out there. Stay alert, stay alive and watch your back.
An even better boss would say that they are on duty, assigned to foot patrol at their own residence until further notice.
Gotta agree with you.
His actions remind us how easy it is (Newtown, DC snipers, Cho) for one or two people to totally change the fabric of our normalcy, and why it is our collective responsibility to keep society in order.
Apologies if I sound like a communist, but living in a community requires effort on everyone's part. Too many people that I know (not LE) in CA think this is purely an internal police issue.
I hope it's not a long list. If in fact this man went "postal", He thinks he is restoring balance to the universe. I don't think he has considered how his actions will eventually be viewed. Sometimes a person just can't walk away. My Grandfather's brother John, a father and former sailor. He couldn't just walk away when three related co-workers tried to get him to quit a good job in Minnesota around 1948, to make room for another new family member. They made the final fatal mistake of pissing in his lunchbox. John brought his rifle to work the next day, and finished the out of control behaivor for good. The adults never talked about John. We just assumed the worst. That he had commited suacide. The guns aren't the problem.
I read his "manifesto" last night. IF you were to believe the specifics of the incidents (e.g., officer kicks suspect in the head), how does a person attempt to rationalize murder? It's a rhetorical question...just pointing out that this guy has really lost it.
Ironically, he goes through great lengths in an attempt to demonstrate that his actions are justified because his "name" has been tarnished...while at one time, he worked in LE where often times people attempt to justify their actions for similar reasons - e.g., gang-related activities.
Hopefully he gets caught before he does more harm; however I expect this is going to take some time. He obviously wanted the truck found, and he knows about the tactics of the people that he has triggered to hunt him.
Stay safe, western Brothers and Sisters.