I figured I'd ask here since I think I'll get more replies, plus I swear I've seen this brand mentioned here before. I'm thinking of selling my VM-II to make a few bucks. I am looking at an Occidental Stronghold Convertible. I like the versatility of having two carry styles out of one holster. http://www.bestbelt.com/product/gunleather/1329.html I remember reading on one holster brand that popped up, everyone seemed to pick them up and eventually I saw a bunch up for sale in the classifieds. I remember something like the leather was too thick or too tight. Don't know if this was the brand or not? Anyone have/tried one of these? Thoughts?