My gun is an AIRWEIGHT, not a steel-frame revolver. Still, my first choice would be the (classic) Remington "FBI load." Recoil would be a PITA, but, hey~it has a proven street record. The Speer Gold designed for short-barrel .38's seems like a more modern, well-designed choice. I'm really leaning towards it. The Federal 125gr. Nyclad is back, and it's standard pressure. However, I have seen evidence, that it under-penetrates in bare gel, and then goes over 18+ inches after demin, without expanding in gel. Was given four boxes of these for nothin': http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=111 Years ago, the simple target wadcutter, was not laughed at, by many who carried original Airweights. It was light kicking, and carried a full-profile, caliber punch! Buffalo Bore claims 14/16-inches of penetration. If this was AFTER clothing, I could accept it. If it is BARE gel, then one could only imagine, how much it would over-penetrate, after barrier material. That being said, the company (and a good one!), obviously thought this load was a viable concept for a carry weapon, of that caliber. Even after all the design advances, snub loads remain dicey, especially in non-+P format. Thoughts appreciated; just bored on a early SAT. morning.