close

Privacy guaranteed - Your email is not shared with anyone.

Thoughts on a concealed carry weapon

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by taylortactical, Nov 4, 2012.

  1. taylortactical

    taylortactical

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2012
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPJjXOhF1Ow&feature=channel&list=UL"]Choosing the most efficient weapon for your concealed carry platform - YouTube[/ame]
     
  2. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 1999
    Messages:
    18,628
    Likes Received:
    753
    Location:
    Hartford, Vermont
    Good choice! I carry a G17! :cool:
     

  3. Lior

    Lior GUNS=FREEDOM

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2004
    Messages:
    2,661
    Likes Received:
    32
    Location:
    Israel
    He advocates the use of the mind more than selecting a particular gun IMO - kudos to him.
     
  4. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 1999
    Messages:
    18,628
    Likes Received:
    753
    Location:
    Hartford, Vermont
    That's right. We should use our heads before, during, and after a defensive shooting.
     
  5. LASTRESORT20

    LASTRESORT20 LongTerm-Guy

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2010
    Messages:
    19,396
    Likes Received:
    27,818
    Location:
    NC
    Great video....nice choice.....
     
  6. 4Rules

    4Rules

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2012
    Messages:
    2,873
    Likes Received:
    169
  7. Brutus Fullman

    Brutus Fullman

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2007
    Messages:
    161
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Nebraska
    hmmmm... lots to think about here: high chance of facing two assailants, statistical probability of missed shots... both speak in favor of high capacity 9mm but whre are the figures on how many shots are actually fired in a civilian (rather than law enforcement officer) self-defense situation? I recall reading that a high percentage of assailants, seeing their intended victim's gun, high-tail it before any shots are fired. I'm still no convinced that 9mm is the way to go.
     
  8. Louisville Glocker

    Louisville Glocker Urban Redneck

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Messages:
    2,290
    Likes Received:
    27
    Location:
    Louisville, KY
    Nice video. I fully respect his opinions. I usually opt for less rounds, with a G26, but for me, concealability is critical. I do have a G19 and G30 as well.
     
  9. cowboy1964

    cowboy1964

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2009
    Messages:
    21,165
    Likes Received:
    3,002
    Location:
    U.S.A.
    Too bad he doesn't have any actual stats on how often more than 10 rounds are needed. I'd be willing to guess it's < 1%. Yet his most important factor appears to be capacity.

    I'm fine with 9 but come on, let's not get silly. Capacity is NOT the main reason to go with a 9, IMO. It's a bonus, not a reason.
     
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2012
  10. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 1999
    Messages:
    18,628
    Likes Received:
    753
    Location:
    Hartford, Vermont
    and no, I don't expect to need all 17 of them, But, we have all heard the horror stories about the drug-crazed felons who soak up the bullets, large or small.
     
  11. unit1069

    unit1069

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    8,340
    Likes Received:
    292
    Location:
    So. Central US
    Here are my thoughts on the subject:

    There is no substitute for absolute gun/ammo reliability; so carry a weapon loaded with quality JHP self-defense ammo that always fires when you pull the trigger.

    Most civilian self-defense shootings are at close range with 3-5 shots expended. Capacity is a great thing especially considering multiple assailants, but if after 8-10 rounds trying to stop the threat one or more of the determined perps will probably have managed to successfully target the lone defender. Reloading at this point seems to be a pipe dream for the typical untutored civilian like me.

    When I visit the shooting range the first thing I do is shoot my carry ammo rapid fire in 2-shot, 3-shot, and 5-shot burst from the cold pistol to satisfy the gun/ammo reliability. This doesn't guarantee things will always go as designed (there are never any guarantees) but it does provide a real world test protocol and provides a great amount of reassurance that if I do my part the chosen apparatus will do it's part.
     
  12. cowboy1964

    cowboy1964

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2009
    Messages:
    21,165
    Likes Received:
    3,002
    Location:
    U.S.A.
    Tiny, TINY, percentage. And who is to say that a larger bullet would not help? It certainly might as the total wound volume would be drastically increased with so many hits.

    Again, capacity is a bonus. No one ever complains about having too many bullets. But I don't pick 9's because it carries 1 or 2 more rounds than the .40.
     
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2012
  13. gadgetnut259

    gadgetnut259

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2011
    Messages:
    871
    Likes Received:
    201
    Actually, in the vast majority of civilian self-defense shootings, the number of shots fired is 1.
     
  14. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 1999
    Messages:
    18,628
    Likes Received:
    753
    Location:
    Hartford, Vermont
    Really? Just one shot? I wouldn't rely on a single shot unless it was to the forehead.
     
  15. mj9mm

    mj9mm

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2011
    Messages:
    5,678
    Likes Received:
    1,446
    Location:
    WI, looking better since Walker
    one, run and done?:cool:
     
  16. gadgetnut259

    gadgetnut259

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2011
    Messages:
    871
    Likes Received:
    201
    Yeah, I did some research on this about a year ago for a project. Of three fairly extensive studies, a single shot was fired way more than any other number. Kinda surprised me too.
     
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2012
  17. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 1999
    Messages:
    18,628
    Likes Received:
    753
    Location:
    Hartford, Vermont
    Are LEOs taught to fire only once?
     
  18. taylortactical

    taylortactical

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2012
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Than you very much for your thooughts !!
    Have you ever trained in Force on Force? ... Also, I am not aware of a case more bullets wouldn't be a plus..... A gun fight is a worse case scenario to begin with.
     
  19. gadgetnut259

    gadgetnut259

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2011
    Messages:
    871
    Likes Received:
    201
    I have no idea. My research was on civilians who discharged their weapon in self defense or in the defense of someone else.
     
  20. Angry Fist

    Angry Fist Dehumanizer® Lifetime Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2009
    Messages:
    39,581
    Likes Received:
    8,313
    Location:
    Hellbilly Hill
    I grabbed the most versatile handgun there is.

    The G20.