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Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by boone10, May 9, 2012.

  1. boone10

    boone10 Glockeologist

    Aug 7, 2011
    WHY NO SINGLE STACK FROM GLOCK?!!! Surely the good folks sitting around the table in the boardroom realize that they are losing a train load of cash each year simply by opting out of the single-stack/pocket rocket phase going gang-busters all across the United States (even as I type).
  2. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004
    This should be asked in General Glocking.

    The G36 is single stack.

  3. Folsom_Prison

    Folsom_Prison Brew Crew

    May 2, 2010
    There to busy with the Gen 4 issues. :whistling:
  4. They are hundreds of thousands of pistols back ordered at any given time. Every single Glock pistol made is sold and every Glock pistol for the foreseeable future is already sold. Would you change the current business model if you were in charge?


  5. Lowjiber


    Jan 26, 2012
    Las Vegas
    +1 above.

    If it ain't broke... Well, you know the rest.
  6. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004
  7. Toyman


    May 6, 2003
    West Michigan
    Because they don't care about making more money. They are stuck on the big brick model, and do not want to make it any thinner, less square, or less bulky.
  8. boone10

    boone10 Glockeologist

    Aug 7, 2011

    Agree to some extent, BUT I just bought a Ruger LC9 and a little research (and heads up from the folks at a competing LGS) revealed that Ruger is also backordered from now until God knows when. IIRC, they are taking NO additional orders until they get caught up on the LCP and LC9 (maybe others involved). Entering into the single stack market wouldn't be "changing" the business model--it would simply be adding another model (as well as employees, market share, etc.). In business, do it right, BUT there's nothing wrong with "going for the throat".

    Here in Alabama, recent news reports have Mercedes, Honda and Hyundai expanding to add models (not changing business models), infrastructure, 3rd shifts, etc. If you can grow in a "down" economy, you'll be way ahead of the competition when (or if) we ever come out the other side. Take a chance GLOCK. I'll buy the first one. Anything else is just too "European" for me.
    Last edited: May 10, 2012
  9. XNDR17C

    XNDR17C NRA Member

    I would agree with this. If Glock is selling everything they have, why try to add a product that they may not need at this time. It would be like asking Mack Trucks to build a car because Chevrolet makes trucks but also build cars. Or asking Rolex to make a digital watch, just because Timex does.
    Also, bringing a new firearm to market can introduce a load of problems that Glock may not want (or need) to deal with. Looking at the present offering of small single stack pistols, every manufacturer is dealing with some sort of problem, even the mighty Smith and Wesson. Perhaps Glock management figures "why bother, we dont need the problems when we have a good thing going".
  10. banger


    Nov 8, 2005
    Where evil lives
    I've heard, it because Glock in concentrating on bringing it's carbine to market first.:tongueout:
  11. bac1023


    Sep 26, 2004
    No doubt ;)
  12. TalkToTheGlock

    TalkToTheGlock Zombie Hunter

    Sep 26, 2009
    They make enough money on their current guns.

    Plus how much smaller do you really want than the G26 and G27? The grip is minute already.
  13. jb1911


    Sep 21, 2011
    This is true. I have a G26 and a Nano and the G26 is just as easy to carry as the Nano. I actually carry the G26 more because it's more reliable and is 10+1 as opposed to the Nano's 6+1.
    Last edited: May 11, 2012
  14. ijacek


    Jun 21, 2008
    576,000 the last I've heard.
  15. JAS104

    JAS104 NRA Life Member

    Apr 2, 2012
    The 36 is single stack, but to shrink it down like that is a huge design difference.

    Personally, I'm cool with them not going with the pocket pistol fad. Put a man's gun on your hip.
  16. cloudbuster


    Mar 17, 2005
    I think this is the crux of the problem. Shrinking the width of the slide to the extent necessary for a true, slim single-stack .40 or 9mm would completely change the physics of the pistol. They'd have to redesign the locking block, the recoil spring, everything. I think they believe, all things considered, the benefits (to them) wouldn't be worth the costs.

    Because of all the redesign, very few pieces would be "parts compatible" with existing Glocks, so all the consumer would get is the Glock name and a reputation for reliability that would need to be proven all over again for a gun that's so fundamentally different. Might as well just buy a Kahr, Ruger or Kel-Tec, etc. and be done with it. There's no shortage of slim single-stacks on the market.
  17. Durden


    Oct 5, 2010
    I am with the OP on this.

    Even moderately well-run companies never pass on an opportunity to expand their market share, revenue and, hopefully, profitability, especially when the sun is shining (the best time to make hay).

    I believe the critical dimension in a concealed carry sidearm is in that which is its thickest point, whether the slide or grip, and the second most important factor is overall weight.

    Glock 9mm double stacks are way too thick to comfortably carry concealed relative to many of the competitor offerings.

    I've resigned myself to the fact that I'll never be able to carry a G19 or G26 comfortably and concealed over any lengthy period of time, especially in warmer weather, because the grip is too thick.

    Since I believe that Glock is a well run, rather than moderately well run, corporation, and given that Glaston is a doer rather than a talker, I can only speculate that there's an engineering issue or maybe a patent issue (or maybe both) that has thus far prevented Glock from offering up a single stack, thin 9mm, with a dedicated purpose of being the top dog for the concealed carry crowd.
  18. Metal Angel

    Metal Angel

    Oct 20, 2010
    Frankly Glock is not a good company. They built a solid gun design that filled a role that no one knew they needed, and exploded because of it. Because the original design pushed things forward so far, it stayed popular longer than a normal "new hot" gun. However, Glock is no longer interested in pushing things forward, they are not even interested in keeping up, and IMO, their days are numbered because of this.
  19. cowboy1964


    Sep 4, 2009
  20. concretefuzzynuts

    concretefuzzynuts Brew Crew

    Dec 27, 2011
    Why doesn't Peterbilt make a car?

    Glock markets to people who want and like Glocks. It's not that hard to figure out. Plus ATFE import point system. And their factory and production is tooled for the simple, interchangeable interior parts.

    Glock has a booming business making a product that orders can't be filled as it is.