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Thinking G19 Gen4 BUT are they finally all fixed from issues?

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by MGman, Jun 4, 2013.

  1. F106 Fan

    F106 Fan

    Oct 19, 2011
    Yes, I am aware that the 9mm guns may not become quirky until many rounds have gone downrange. For many shooters, that may never happen. They shoot a box every couple of months and call it good.

    And, yes, that's the thing with the 33 and 39. There aren't a lot of them out there so the sample size is limited.

    As to subcompacts, I am truly torn. I would consider the G26 for reduced recoil, the G27 because I reload .40 for my wife, the G33 for no particular reason except the shape of the cartridge should preclude certain types of jams and the G39 because I load .45 ACP by the dumpster load. Resetting the dies to .45 GAP shouldn't be a problem.

    I have to toss the G26 because it is a late model Gen 3 9mm and probably the G33 because, well, just because. That leaves the G27 and G39 as viable candidates. The G27 gets a lot of heat from new shooters due to recoil but I can't imagine the G39 being any less. And I'm not a new shooter.

    The slide on the G39 is fatter than the G27 but the overall width of the guns is identical according to Glock.

    I suppose I'll go with what I know and buy the G27 but I'll always wonder about the G39. Or maybe I'll buy them both, over time.

    I don't know how that works out. I'm please that Glock Customer Service is so responsive but concerned that they need to be.

    I'm also convinced that many of the purported problems are due to wimpy ammo and marginal shooters. Not all the problems, but many.

  2. MGman


    Oct 29, 2009

    Please check the extractor material ASAP. I'd really appreciate I am thinking a possible purchase.

  3. MGman


    Oct 29, 2009
    BUT most ejection problems don't start until the 700-800 rd mark. Let us know at that point.
  4. Diesel McBadass

    Diesel McBadass Tactically Epic

    Apr 15, 2011
    Dover NH
    mine was unreliable, they gave me a new spring and it rules now
  5. snuffy33

    snuffy33 NRA Life Member

    Feb 2, 2007
    Any new findings?
  6. rolltide_pisco

    rolltide_pisco NRA Life Member

    Mar 3, 2012
    Western Kentucky
    I've had my 19 since March 2012 and besides some early BTF's no problems since. No modifications or anything.
  7. tager


    Feb 4, 2010
    Morning MGman

    I have a somewhat recent build G-19 --May/of/2013 (VAV 5XX).

    It came from the box very tight & had some partial feed issues with light loads but worked perfectly with full power self defense loads.

    It now has a little over 1000 rounds through it & has burnished in nicely.

    It puts full power cases just over & behind my R/H shoulder but will still put a few lower power & light hand loads on my right arm or shoulder. Most of the light loads (125 grain bullets) just clear me & so far none to the face or head.

    Trigger pull came out of the box at 6.5 lbs (measured 3/4 way down trigger face). Some (lots of) polishing, a 6# trigger spring, lots of dry firing, & 1000+ rounds of shooting have the trigger pull at 5 lbs +/- (measured 3/4 down the trigger face).

    I left the ribbed trigger in but re-worked the trigger edges & smoothed the ribs & so far it feels just fine on my finger. I tried the older Gen 3 trigger bar (no tit on shark fin) but that added a lot of compliancy (re springiness) to the trigger pull so went back to the Gen4 with the tit polished.

    I haven't been able to get the trigger feel/break quite as nice as my late build G22 but it has less rounds through it.

    The partial feeds seem to be due to the slide not fully cycling to the rear so the RSA is probably on the high side for lighter loads. It is just fine with full power self defense loads.
  8. donovan655


    Aug 15, 2009
    I just picked up a VR prefix gen 4 G19. I have 250 rds through it. Ejection was 99.8% acceptable. The .2% was one or two cases that got close to my head. Those were in the first 50 rds.

    I really like the new finish.

    I'm antsy to pick up an OD frame G23 OR 19.

    I have 4 mid size glocks, gen 3 and 4, purchased in the last 1.5 yrs and they are all fine pistols.
  9. mongo356


    Aug 18, 2004
    I have an April 2013 G19Gen4.

    Runs fine no problems what so ever.
  10. bpear1600


    May 7, 2013
    The Grand Strand
    I have over 200 rounds through my 19 gen 4 and it performs flawlessly. Had it for two months.
    Last edited: Jul 2, 2013
  11. WayneJessie


    Jan 12, 2013
    My Gen4 build test-fire date is 1/29/13. 115Gr WWB or Federal Champion don't run well at all in it. The only other available ammo around here is Hornady CD +P @$25 PER 25rnds. Sadly, I cannot afford to buy it for practice ammo.
    Some may consider brass coming at you as a minor inconvenience and I am good with that. They feel as long as the gun doesn't choke there's no problem. If the possibility of buying a gun that ejects poorly does not bother you buy it.
  12. Browner


    Mar 15, 2009
    I have a Gen3 and Gen4 G19 as well as a G26 which I just bought. All shoot great. The only thing I had while breaking in the G26 was 1 round hit me on my head, and one on my shoulder. Which could have been my fault or the casing hitting the wall while shooting. Ron
  13. Genin

    Genin Designated Left

    Oct 25, 2010
    Bloomsburg PA
    I had bought a Gen4 G19 way back when they were first released. It was a freaking nightmare! Malfunctions, BTF, etc etc. I traded for a Gen 3 and never looked back....until recently. I went to my local gun shop this past week and there was a new Gen 4 G19. U serial prefix. It had the tab on the back, 043 recoil spring, the new ejector, beavertail backstraps, etc. I decided to go for it. I have put 300 rounds through it and can say that it ejects very well and very consistent. In fact, my double taps often have the brass hitting eachother on the ground. 300 rounds is my general test of if the gun will run or not. After that if something goes wrong then I address it and consider it a fluke. My Gen 3 G19 has around 5k rounds through it in a few years and has been 100%. I hope this one is the same for me. I can say that I prefer the Gen4 ergos and backstrap options that was what really made me go for it. I'd say if you get a new, new production Gen 4 then you'll be good to go.

    Pic of said beast:
  14. snuffy33

    snuffy33 NRA Life Member

    Feb 2, 2007
    Dumb question: What is the "tab on the back" ?
  15. Genin

    Genin Designated Left

    Oct 25, 2010
    Bloomsburg PA
    Not a dumb question at all since it's a relatively new feature. The tab is on the back of the frame and allows the factory beavertail to "snap" onto the frame on the top as well as slip into the channel on the bottom of the frame. It makes for an extremely solid fit. There is zero movement with the beavertail backstrap attached with that tab on the frame.
  16. Genin

    Genin Designated Left

    Oct 25, 2010
    Bloomsburg PA
    This video explains it well:
    [ame=""]Glock problems with beavertail backstraps - YouTube[/ame]
  17. Chuck

    Chuck Millennium Member

    Dec 22, 1998
    My gen 4 19 was born in April 2013. Have 1200 flawless rounds through the gun. Shot all kinds of ammo, ball, HP's and +P's, plus all different weights amd all shot excellent. This became my favorite Glock out of all my Glocks. It shoots smooth much smoother than my gen 3's. Love it!
  18. Razer1

    Razer1 Moar Glocks!

    Jun 26, 2013
    My Glock Gen4 was an April as well, and I also will occasionally take one to the arm, but other than that no issues of any kind.
  19. snuffy33

    snuffy33 NRA Life Member

    Feb 2, 2007
    Thanks for the info Genin.
  20. Genin

    Genin Designated Left

    Oct 25, 2010
    Bloomsburg PA