Hey all, Did some informal ballistic testing tonight at the gun range and am thoroughly dissappointed in the results. Sorry, I'm not techno saavy enough to know how to upload pictures. Anyway, since most who do post test results here tend to start from a fair distance, I thought I'd start from a distance which would be more realistic for me in the big city. The ammo tested was HST (230 +p and 124+p), Ranger t (230gr.,124+p and 127 +p+), and Gold Dot (230 +P and 124 +p). Just one round each. The media tested against were phone books. Nine stacked (packing taped) to be specific. They were only a lil damp since they were distributed a few days ago when it rained. The distance was no more than 2 feet. Besides I always wondered what they would expand to in close quarters ( think gun struggle). After recovery they were all clogged with paper. Only the 9mm HST and Gold dot showed petals. 2 petals and 1 petal respectively, though they remained mostly unopened. None of the .45s opened even a bit. Dissappointing since I enjoy both calibers. Next time I think I'll try this again from a lil further distance say 3-5 ft. and see if it makes a difference. EDIT: forgot to add. Pistols were a G19 and Kimber custom classic 5" bbl.