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Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by CAcop, May 31, 2011.

  1. CAcop


    Jul 21, 2002
    Last edited: May 31, 2011
  2. DaBigBR

    DaBigBR No Infidels!

    Oct 28, 2005
    Circling the wagons.
    Ahh, the AR-18. I remember reading an absolutely glowing gun magazine review (shocking) of the resurrection of that gun (AR-180) about five years ago. Never did see one.

  3. GioaJack

    GioaJack Conifer Jack

    Apr 14, 2009
    Conifer, CO
    I'd been on the street for less than a year when that happened, (Miami) and it was the genesis for a lot of stations.

    Up until that time each sub-tation had two lever action 30-30's for occasions that called for a long rifle. The armory in the headquarters building had 3 Thompsons for those special search or arrest warrants when a revolver and 5 shotgun rounds just might not do the job.

    After the LA incident our training took on a certain tempo of urgency and we spent a lot of time watching SLA and Black Panther films about how to ambush police officers, how to initiate fake calls and lure more units in, etc.

    Right after the shooting the department started thinking about forming a SWAT team although we ultimately called it HRT, (Hostage Rescue Team. The Winchesters were eventually replaced with Model 70's for the team snipers and after testing between the Mini-14 and AR-15 we settled on the 15. (A lot of guys had military and Vietnam experience so the thought was there would be little or no learning curve.

    Second Chance vests were just coming out but the department felt they looked 'offensive' to the public so they were quietly discouraged. If you wanted one you had to buy it yourself.

    One side not that your short video clip doesn't show. During the shootout the uniform guys were running out of ammunition and a call was put out for a resupply. The extra ammo was delivered in the back of a paddy wagon and when the rear doors were opened news crews shot footage of boxes of Federal ammunition. The rumor immediately spread that the federal government was supplying LAPD with ammunition... it took awhile before people learned that it was a brand of ammunition and had nothing to do with the government.

    Good times back then, no dash cams, no microphones, little or no interference from the ACLU, back-ups that swore they were in the unit writing a report when asked by IA if you hit a subject a couple times too many with your Kel-Lite, no such thing as terminating a chase, one day off as a reward after a shooting and best of all... you didn't get fired for eating free coffee and donuts.

    Things have changed quite a bit... you guys have to decide if it's been for better or worse.

  4. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

    Apr 30, 2005
    Last edited: May 31, 2011
  5. MeefZah

    MeefZah Cover is Code 3

    Jan 2, 2008
    Lost Coast, Cali
    I like the pimp wearing a crushed velvet suit just chillin' at 0:44. :rofl:

    It took me a minute to figure out that the female with a walkie was a reporter, transmitting to the studio. A little before the time of cell phoens and mobile uplinks!
  6. In the late 1970s or early 1980s, I remember first learning about AR 18s from Soldier of Fortune Magazine (Chuck Taylor, Peter Kokalas, etc...). All I remember was their advise to get the ones produced in Japan and not England (or visa versa). Had a chance to purchase one but declined. Just as well.
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  7. EOD3


    Oct 19, 2000
    "That's bad, that's bad" Biggest understatement of the week. :cool:
  8. CAcop


    Jul 21, 2002
    That was no pimp. That was the style then.
  9. MeefZah

    MeefZah Cover is Code 3

    Jan 2, 2008
    Lost Coast, Cali
    That does not mean he wasn't a pimp!
  10. SAR


    Apr 17, 2004
    LA LA Land
    That was five years before I came on the job, but some of my ex-partners were there that day. Back then you HAD to wear a hat. I notice some of them weren't wearing hats that day. I bet they got written up later. Officers got away with beating suspects senseless, only to get written up for not wearing their hats when their supervisors drove up. Those were the days....