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The "ultimate" 9mm round is...

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by Tilley, Oct 15, 2010.


  1. Tilley

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    Federal HST 147grain in a +P load!!!

    I just bought a box 50 for $25 at "Ammo to Go." I am a huge fan of the 147 grainer's, but I had no idea they came in a +P venue. Size with some additional speed...:cool:


    Has anyone ever tried/owned/shot/tested this particular round yet, or is this something new?
     

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    I thought it was a 12ga slug
     

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    I thought it was a .357 Sig.
     
  4. JBP55

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    I have owned and fired quite a few 124+P HST and 147+P HST. They work great in my Glocks and are quite accurate.
     
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    I bought a box of this ammo that ill be picking up tomorrow in fact...Im excited to feel in in my 26.
     
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    Well, yeah, but the OP was talking about the 9X19 9mm Luger.

    I think the "ultimate" round for any weapon is the one that is most reliable, accurate, and exhibits the best shooting characteristics.

    That said, right now my carry round for my Glock G-32 is ... Federal 125-grain HST.
     
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  8. JimBianchi

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    On paper it is some version of 115 +p+ or 127 +p+

    But I think in reality they are all very close.

    Pick one with a good track record and is 100% reliable is you carry gun.

    I carry HST 147 in both my 9's.
     
  9. The Retired Sarge

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    Concerning the Federal 9mm 147gr HST +P, it is an intriguing concept but I have not been able to find any credible testing of this round in properly calibrated ballistic gelatin. This included an inquiry with the manufacturer. Sheer velocity is sometimes not the end all and pushing a bullet too fast can cause over expansion and under penetration. The standard pressure HST 9mm 147gr works extremely well as designed. Before I buy or carry the +P version I want to see its performance in proper testing. Bill
     
  10. BOGE

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    Hey!! This is Glock Talk!! Don`t you know that people carry ammo that just plain looks cool or because Yogi Bear said it was good!!?? Never mind that they have never read of CREDIBLE REAL WORLD shootings with their given round!!

    Bottom line: HST appears to be a wonderful round but until enough street results are in I`ll stick with proven stoppers like BPLE. Only an fool would trust their life to a round that has no street cred for daily CCW.
     
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    Well, that didn't last long. That's to be expected though. I'd like to test this stuff in my SR9-c.
     
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    Averaged 1027fps from my Glock 19.

    *May* be the best of both worlds: expansion with enough weight for decent penetration, something the 147gr'ers didn't used to be known for.
     
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    Bought two boxes of that also with my last 147gr HST +P purchase. Just to "have". :whistling:

    Oh, by the time the HST has the record of the BPLE we'll all be dead or in nursing homes! Hell, that thing's been around since the 70's, right?
     
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    Fixed...
     
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    RA9TA or 9BPLE for me.
     
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    Still pretty happy with the 127 gr +P+ Ranger stuff, but YMMV.
     
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    All recent good 147s expand and penetrate slightly more than their lighter counterparts. Take a look at the HST datasheet.

    20-40 more fps probably isn't going to make a measurable difference in the results.
     
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    I like the Ranger 127 +P+ too but am concerned about glass performance. It is not good compared to a bonded bullet. Something like 9" of penetration and 58% weight retention. Which means you have only a 73gr bullet going in 9". That's not even .380ACP performance.

    I still like Gold Dot 124+P the best for overall performance.
     
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    I have to say how a round does against glass is pretty unimportant to me. I can't think when I would be shooting into it. I'm pretty happy with 125 +p gold dots.
     
  20. Brian Lee

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    It's the 9x25 Dillon - with whatever bullet you want to throw.


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